The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Noven » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:54 pm

Thanks Dave. You mention good magazine choices for a 7.62x39 AK, but what are good choices for their 5.45 brothers?
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Unassigned » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:37 pm

DavePAL84 wrote:For AK’s, consider the following:
-Black Bulgarian Waffle magazines (avoid US look-alikes as well as clear Bulgarian waffle magazines)
-Chinese smooth-back magazines
-Eastern European surplus magazines sans Yugoslavian.
How can you tell if these are Yugo-made?

For instance, does this qualify as non-Yugo?
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Brendan Sullivan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:42 pm

Unassigned wrote:
DavePAL84 wrote:For AK’s, consider the following:
-Black Bulgarian Waffle magazines (avoid US look-alikes as well as clear Bulgarian waffle magazines)
-Chinese smooth-back magazines
-Eastern European surplus magazines sans Yugoslavian.
How can you tell if these are Yugo-made?

For instance, does this qualify as non-Yugo?
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/ ... ts_id/4006
http://www.ak47website.com/Articles.php ... 1197015857

Would indicate that mags with a bolt hold-open feature could be Yugo in origin. I wouldn't recommend them anyway, unless you're only ever taking the AK to the range, but the thread isn't titled The Basics of the Range Carbine so I'll assume you want yours zombie-ready. Eastern Bloc surplus mags without the hold-open follower are very prolific and cheap anyway.

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by AKFTW » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:36 am

If you have a light on your rifle, would you recommend having a space to store spare batts on the rifle? Specifically, should I go out and buy a US PALM AK grip so I can toss 3 AAAs in it for a light?
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Dave_M » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:22 pm

AKFTW wrote:If you have a light on your rifle, would you recommend having a space to store spare batts on the rifle? Specifically, should I go out and buy a US PALM AK grip so I can toss 3 AAAs in it for a light?
If you're looking for a reason to buy a new grip then there ya go.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by nathat » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:30 am

as far as AK mags, the circle 10 polymar mags seem to work very well. I think the feed lips are metal reinforced? Double check me on this though.

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Dave_M » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:34 pm

nathat wrote:as far as AK mags, the circle 10 polymar mags seem to work very well. I think the feed lips are metal reinforced? Double check me on this though.
Here you go:
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 09&t=53792" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by nathat » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:20 pm

sorry I missed this post. Thank you for the link.

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by ashwednesday » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:47 pm

MacabeeSicarius wrote:
MantisCell wrote:So Lancer L5 mag's are gtg ? Been on the fence about getting a few .


L5 Lancers are currently my favorite AR magazine.
Good to know, just ordered $100 worth of these.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Brandr » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:51 pm

I agree this needs a sticky. After reading it I know what I need to do to bring my build up to par.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Dave_M » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:01 pm

ashwednesday wrote:
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MantisCell wrote:So Lancer L5 mag's are gtg ? Been on the fence about getting a few .


L5 Lancers are currently my favorite AR magazine.
Good to know, just ordered $100 worth of these.
L5AWM's are my favorite but they weren't out when this was written. USGI's too
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by steppenwolf » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:36 pm

Brandr wrote:I agree this needs a sticky. After reading it I know what I need to do to bring my build up to par.
Agree.

Very nice work, Dave - and thanks for investing your time in doing it. 8-)

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by BullOnParade » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:34 pm

Dave, you said in your OP, that if you intend to run optics, you suggest against a carry handle, and someone else said they had the carry handle milled off of their Colt. Can you elaborate as to why? Is it a matter of not being able to get a good cheek weld?
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by AKFTW » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:33 pm

BullOnParade wrote:Dave, you said in your OP, that if you intend to run optics, you suggest against a carry handle, and someone else said they had the carry handle milled off of their Colt. Can you elaborate as to why? Is it a matter of not being able to get a good cheek weld?
Optics on top of a carry handle have extreme height-over-bore. One of the same reasons that Eotechs are not usually run on AKs.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by BullOnParade » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:35 pm

Ah, that makes sense. Too bad, I like the look of a carry handle, but I guess a red dot with better functioning BUIS is more practical.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by J.C. » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:42 pm

BullOnParade wrote: Is it a matter of not being able to get a good cheek weld?
There it is.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Dave_M » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:31 pm

I'm working on an updated version of this. Keep posted. Should have it up soon.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by TaskForceTen » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:52 pm

Nice to see my Ar follows all these guides before I read this post. Very good info, also a good idea to keep the rifle lite, no point in carrying unnecessary weight
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Garyedge » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:04 pm

i have del-ton, its not on the M-4 chart and its not on your list, but it has everything those other rifles have(minus a Properly staked gas key). So my question is, is My del-ton combat ready?
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by brokenparts » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:06 pm

Good read... Thanks!

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Post by TheLastOne » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:47 pm

sticky this already
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:19 am

...or just get a 20 ga. coach gun.
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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by Ye Olde Spook » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:05 am

OUTSTANDING POST DAVE! Just read through all seven pages over the morning joe. If you are thinking of getting an AR, this should be required reading. Thanks!

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Re: The Basics of the Fighting Carbine

Post by retiredlawman » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:04 am

Informative, comprehensive, excellent!

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