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Remington 870 (image heavy)

Post by jeremya » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:46 pm

So as I stated in a previous post my birthday is coming up and I was trying to decide between a shotgun or getting my CHL. What I decided to do was get my CHL, which I am still doing. My wife however knew I really wanted a shotgun and she saved the circular for Academy sporting goods store. I am not sure if it was her way of saying "if you see something you like get it" or if she was just being nice. Anyway last night I am looking at the circular and I see that they have the Remington 870 Express on sale plus Remington is offering a $30 mail in rebate lowering the price to $199 + tax. I figured it was at least worth checking out.

So tonight after work I drove home, picked up my wife, and we went to Academy. We looked at different options and I had her try holding the 870 Express. She really didn't care for how it felt to hold it and basically said she wasn't interested in shooting a shotgun. So I figured forget it... we spent another 30 - 40 mins looking at hand guns for her since she doesn't like the way our Glock 19 fits her hand. In the process we narrowed it down to 3 guns she really liked, but wanted to, of course rent, before buying. Then we left the store. As we were driving around trying to find dinner we formulated a plan to finally get her a gun. She's said "but it's going to take me a while to decide so if you want a shotgun in the meantime go for it.".

Back to Academy, fill out paperwork, get a brief run down on how to assemble it, pay for everything and now I am the proud owner of a Remington 870 Express.

( Sorry for being long winded... on to the gun porn. )

In the box....
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Some assembly required....
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All together...
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After reading through the owners manual I realized I need to get stuff to clean the barrel. So tomorrow it's back to the store. I am going to pick up some shells and clays as well.

I will have a range report on Sunday.

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Re: Remington 870 (image heavy)

Post by timmyb21 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:00 am

I have the same gun. It claimed 22 dove this early season. Shoots straight and true. Make sure you lube up the action good for the first 200 rounds or so, after that it's plenty loose. If not, you'll have some FTF's. Great gun!

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Post by jeremya » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:43 am

timmyb21 wrote:I have the same gun. It claimed 22 dove this early season. Shoots straight and true. Make sure you lube up the action good for the first 200 rounds or so, after that it's plenty loose. If not, you'll have some FTF's. Great gun!
Thanks for the advice... I will strip it down and clean any "packing grease" out of it. I really should know better and should have planned on doing this anyway. I still get nervous when tearing down a new gun.

By action do you mean the bolt? Is just wiping it down with Rem Oil good enough to lube it. The idea of a cleaner/lubricant seems odd to me.

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Post by MJS8725 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:51 am

Nice shotgun man. You can't go wrong with an 870 IMHO.
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Re: Remington 870 (image heavy)

Post by mk_ultra » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:46 am

Get yourself an 18 inch cylinder bore barrel and you will be all set up for defense . You will have the long barrel for hunting/clays etc. , and there you have it.

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Post by Bubba Enfield » Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:07 pm

Congratulations. May it last forever.
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Post by Haji » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:41 pm

Get a decent lube for it. Remoil sucks. Its too thin and doesn't lubricate as well as a whole mess of other oils on the market. I'm partial to Militec, but there are several good ones.

If you should choose to add a magazine extension and sidesaddle to the gun, there are a couple things to know. With the magazine extension, you'll find that the mag spring cap is a plunger-style unit. There are two dimples in the magazine tube that will either have to be pressed or drilled out. I had mine pressed out by a good gunsmith, and its impossible to tell they were ever there. Drilling them out is common, but that puts holes in your mag tube for dirt and creepie crawlies to get in.

If you want to add a side saddle, you'll have to change that Wingmaster style fore end to the Police style. I got my from Scattergun Technologies, who is owned by Wilson Combat now. Brownells has several as well. The other option is to cut that fore end to make a relief cut for the Side Saddle.

Conga rats on your new addition. I've had mine for a long time (a dozen years or more now) and it's never given me any serious trouble. The only issue I had was a magazine spring that should have been replaced, which I left in a little too long. Oops for being inattentive on my part. 870's rule.
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Post by jeremya » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:22 pm

Thanks guys! I spent some time today cleaning the gun up. I used rem-oil on everything that looked like it might need it. Unfortunately the owners manual is a bit vague on what should be oiled and what shouldn't.

It was pretty easy getting things apart, but it was a bit trickier getting it all back together. You basically needed a 3rd hand.

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Post by JollyRoger762 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:49 am

Nice gun.
Re: Lubing. You can basically lube everything, just don't go heavy on the bolt face (don't want oil to get to your primers), I usually just use a silicone cloth on the bolt face. I'd suggest getting soke Hoppe's or Tetra gun grease and grease the action bars and the bolt. (Cycle it a few times. Wherever you see the metal finish start to wear, put grease there). I'd also recommend you leave it unloaded, cycle it once, then hold the slide release and cycle it a few hundred times (seriously) to loosen up the action and work the metal parts together. It doesn't have quite the fit and polish of a Wingmaster, so it benefits from this. Then clean it out real good after that. Any good gun oil will do.
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Post by Haji » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:01 pm

Once you've taken 'em apart a few times, it gets easy. As for oiling, just keep an eye on where you're seeing finish rubbed off. oil those places, as well as anything that moves or has something moving against it. You'll be expertish in no time.
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Post by jeremya » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:02 pm

Well I ran 50 shells through the 870 and it jammed on approx 5-8 of them. Also wooden heat guard ( aka the part you pump) seems to be rubbing against the barrel on the left side.

So as far as the jamming goes. I would take a shot then pull back the shell ejects fine then as I push forward the shell gets fed in the "grooves" in the bolt, but then it jams. It looked to me like the shell was jammed on the carrier. I am thinking I need to take out the trigger group and clean/lube around the carrier. Any thoughts?

I will also double check that I have the traveler in correctly, but I am fairly positive I do.

I was shooting Winchester Target (White Box) 2 3/4 shells.

Also is it normal to see some wear on the side of the bolt or do I need to lube it up more?

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Post by Lodewijk » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:11 pm

jeremya wrote: Also wooden heat guard ( aka the part you pump) seems to be rubbing against the barrel on the left side.
My 20 gauge 870 does this a little. I've got synthetic furniture, though - it doesn't seem to hurt anything.

Can't say what wood would do.

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Post by jeremya » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:17 pm

Lodewijk wrote:
jeremya wrote: Also wooden heat guard ( aka the part you pump) seems to be rubbing against the barrel on the left side.
My 20 gauge 870 does this a little. I've got synthetic furniture, though - it doesn't seem to hurt anything.

Can't say what wood would do.
Yeah it wasn't concerning me too much as the forend assembly seems to have some wiggle in it.

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Post by jeremya » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:03 pm

Ok so I took the gun apart again this time removing the trigger group (scratched the finish in the process of getting the pins out, but oh well) I sprayed rem-oil where they said to on the trigger group and looked for wear marks on the other parts. Places that were a bit worn got some heavier oil. I reassembled the gun and cycled it about 20 times. It seems a little smoother. I can't wait to get out and shoot it again.

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Post by Apollo-11 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:37 am

Good choice. I got that same one the last time they had the rebate. I need to get the shorter barrel for it, along with a magazine extension. What is the preferred brand out there?
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Post by ZombieCleaner » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 pm

Apollo-11 wrote:What is the preferred brand out there?
Mag extension? I used a Wilson combat model for mine. Factory 18" barrel.

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Post by Apollo-11 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:26 pm

So with the 18" barrel, is that a 2 shot or 3 shot extension? Looks good!
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Post by Zdigger » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:51 am

gratz brother and no nail biting wait for this one.

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Post by ZombieCleaner » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:34 am

Apollo-11 wrote:So with the 18" barrel, is that a 2 shot or 3 shot extension? Looks good!
That's the 2 shot. It had a barrel brace and a QD sling stud! The construction is very, very, very solid. You could beat someone with it, no lie.
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Post by Apollo-11 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:49 am

Nice... I need that, a flashlight mount, and a laser for ultimate tacticool bling. Oh, and fuzzy dice and a tritium night sight.
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Post by JollyRoger762 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:29 pm

jeremya wrote:Also is it normal to see some wear on the side of the bolt or do I need to lube it up more?-- Jeremy
Yeah, that's what i was talking about, I put actual grease (thin film, on the wearing parts) They'll "wear in" and then no more wear after that. It's normal.

For the forend rubbing on the barrel, it happens. On mine, I can turn my hand a bit and get it to rub on either side. It's just the two thin action bars holding it in place, they can't stop it from torquing. It's not a problem.

For the jams, I think it's just due to the gun being new and tight. I wasn't kidding about dry cycling it a few hundred times. Watch a good gangster movie or something and dry cycle it a while.

If you want to go "tactical" on it there's another option to the 18" barrel. Remington makes a 20" barrel that takes choke tubes and has standard rifle sights (not ghost rings). You can use a 3 round magazine extention (remember to press or file out the "nipples"), use the IC choke for slugs and buckshot, and other choke tubes for hunting. Makes it lighter and handier for hunting (and easy to take off the mag extension and put in the duck plug for waterfowl hunting), and is only 1.25" longer than the 18" barrel. Also allows you to sight the rifle sights in for the slugs,a nd see where your shot load pattern from there.
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Post by ZombieCleaner » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:55 pm

JollyRoger762 wrote:remember to press or file out the "nipples"
I drilled mine out in <15 mins. using an electric hand drill and various sized bits.

MAKE SURE YOU PUT A WET PAPER TOWEL DOWN THE MAG TUBE WHEN YOU DO THIS!

You will have little shavings all inside your gun if you don't. I just tied a string to the end of the paper towel to remove it, but needle nose pliers work as well.
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Post by jeremya » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:14 pm

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jeremya wrote:Also is it normal to see some wear on the side of the bolt or do I need to lube it up more?-- Jeremy
Yeah, that's what i was talking about, I put actual grease (thin film, on the wearing parts) They'll "wear in" and then no more wear after that. It's normal.

For the forend rubbing on the barrel, it happens. On mine, I can turn my hand a bit and get it to rub on either side. It's just the two thin action bars holding it in place, they can't stop it from torquing. It's not a problem.

For the jams, I think it's just due to the gun being new and tight. I wasn't kidding about dry cycling it a few hundred times. Watch a good gangster movie or something and dry cycle it a while.

If you want to go "tactical" on it there's another option to the 18" barrel. Remington makes a 20" barrel that takes choke tubes and has standard rifle sights (not ghost rings). You can use a 3 round magazine extention (remember to press or file out the "nipples"), use the IC choke for slugs and buckshot, and other choke tubes for hunting. Makes it lighter and handier for hunting (and easy to take off the mag extension and put in the duck plug for waterfowl hunting), and is only 1.25" longer than the 18" barrel. Also allows you to sight the rifle sights in for the slugs,a nd see where your shot load pattern from there.
What kind of grease do you suggest? I put some gun oil on those parts.

I have been dry cycling it 20 times a night. So hopefully the next time I go out I should be good to go.

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Post by Osiris Risen » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:24 pm

I've got the same gun, picked it up last year and it hasn't given me a single problem. Enjoy.
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