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want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 2:53 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 3:29 pm

I think the first question would be why build one instead of buying one already built? I know what the usual reasons are, but what are your reasons? Most folks build because there are specific components they want. Some others do it because they enjoy the challenge of assembling and fine tuning a rifle that's just right for them. But building vs. buying pre-built can get real spendy, and it takes a good sized budget to do it right. I know you're former military, and I know as such you had at least some firearms training in basic, so you're likely at least familiar with the M-4, but do you have much range time with one?

I also know, based on what you've said in other threads, that while you're making a good wage, you're not rich and might not want to invest that much money in building when you can get a decent AR for less that will be ready to go right out of the box.

(and don't forget ammo costs - ARs are hungry beasts, and 5.56 isn't as cheap as .22LR)
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 3:40 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 3:46 pm

Okay, I agree with you, that sounds like a fun project that going to lead to a very nice shooting gun in the long run.

If it were me, I'd start the project by deciding on what caliber I want and then begin with the best quality stripped lower I could afford.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 3:48 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 3:54 pm

Hokicake wrote:well .223 of course I have so many of those and filled mags in my closet!
I'm curious how you ended up with a closet full of .223 and filled mags, but maybe I don't really want to know. So, what do the mags fit?
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 3:55 pm

Hokicake wrote:I want mine to be pretty and I would like a tan or earth colored lower and I would like some kind of gun paint or something to color the little switches and buttons a mix of white and black I think. or maybe like if that mag release button was pink or purple it would be nice too. Would painting those parts with a gun paint affect fitment?
No, painting those wouldn't affect fitment if it were properly done, and it's a pretty common thing to do. There's at least one person I know of who built one in pink with sparkles.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:01 pm

Hokicake wrote:I was thinking something like this one
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/pro ... r+Receiver

unless i can find something better but I don't know the good sites to order from. I don't really want to have to paint everything so I'd like a lower that's already tan/earth but I def want a stainless steel silver barrel.
That lower you linked to is a good quality, ultra-light lower. I think it will be a good starting point.

The barrel will come later, and there's plenty to pick from. The next step is going to be building that lower out with the parts you want.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

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Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:05 pm

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Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:10 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:11 pm

Hokicake wrote:well is there a better site I should be looking at? I just have a feeling maybe that lower is to cheap and you say it's light so does that mean it's not as sturdy? Where can I see a better selection? are there like titanium lowers?
Light does not equal weak. This is a magnesium lower, reinforced at key points. It's not junk.

As for titanium, the only advantage titanium has is light weight. It's actually no better than mild steel, but just weighs a lot less, That's why it's used as armor in some aircraft. Maybe there are titanium lowers but I'm not familiar with any.

There are, of course, dozens of sites for buying parts. Just Google "ar lower" for a good sampling of them.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:12 pm

Hokicake wrote:and do you really think that lower on buds is ok? cause I showed star lord one time and he said it was crappy.
It's a decent brand and a model that's gotten some good reviews. You can, of course, shop around and look at other brands on other sites.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:12 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:15 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:19 pm

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/lowers.html

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/categor ... ceivers.do

https://www.impactguns.com/ar15-lowers.aspx

There you go, but I'm not picking one for you. It's your build, your gun, not mine. What I pick for myself might not work for you, so it's best if you do the picking and choosing. After all, it's also your money paying for it.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:22 pm

Hokicake wrote:i would like to put in my first order like maybe today so I can get it and complete the first step before I start school again. but the BIG question is do I need to fill out any special forms? It's not like getting a silencer is it? I just don't wanna order it and go pick it up and they say uh you can't get it yet cause you gotta do this and that and a waiting period and crap.
It's just like buying any other firearm. It gets shipped to the FFL dealer you choose and you pay them their transfer fee and wait while they do the background check, just like when you bought the Mossberg.
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:24 pm

Going to school soon? I'm a firm believer in education and I love reading and learning about new things. What kinds of classes will you be taking?
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:33 pm

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:34 pm

soooooooooooo I just need to lower shipped to FFL and everything else can be shipped directly to me? the barrel and upper and everything?

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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by NT2C » Tue May 16, 2017 4:45 pm

Hokicake wrote:soooooooooooo I just need to lower shipped to FFL and everything else can be shipped directly to me? the barrel and upper and everything?
Yup!
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Re: want to build an AR rifle thingy

Post by Hokicake » Tue May 16, 2017 4:45 pm

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