gunsandrockets wrote: Doctorr Fabulous wrote:
From my own experience buckshot loads seem very difficult to find at retail level. Sure the standard 9 pellet 00 buckshot 12 gauge round is all over the place, but try to find anything different, even in 12 gauge. Weirdly enough the Federal .410 handgun 000 buckshot load isn't hard to find.
But for online sales, everything is equally available, and almost equally cheap. I see Winchester 20 gauge #3 buckshot for only $4.47 a box.
https://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product ... rom=Search
Rio low-recoil 9-pellet 00 for $2.40 per box of 5, Federal Flite Control for $3.20/box when you buy a case, and Winchester Super X (buffered, not very controlled, but the same as the 20ga you linked) for $4.45/box for #1 16 pellet in bulk. Cheapiest of the cheap stuff is $4.40/10.
At best, you pay the same price for the same stuff, but still either get inferior pattern density or you get higher recoil with similar pattern density. With the 12ga you can step down to low recoil and still have 9 pellets, or up to 3 or 3.5" magnum and sling anything you can stuff in there. 20ga means a lighter gun, which means to sling the same number of pellets of the same size at the same speed, you get more recoil instead of less.
Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Most slugs will go through soft armor like it's nothing. High velocity copper sabots will tear through level-III stuff too.
Ummm, lvl III, or lvl IIIA? I can't imagine slugs go through the stuff meant for 556, etc. But I have been wrong before.
DDupleks sells a steel sabot that will defeat LVLIII, most sabots will defeat IIIA but soft lead slugs may not penetrate despite exceeding the 40mm backface deformation. AR500 might fare differently, but I remember the demo video Second Chance sent to AAC Back In The Day that featured a copper sabot eating a PAGST plate for breakfast but failing against their Lvl IV hybrid plate.
Still, if your opponent is wearing armor, your best bet is tactics, not bigger bullets.