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A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Dabster » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:52 pm

All,

I searched back more than two years and except for a "Poor man's weapon light" thread haven't found a thread dedicated to the illumination of long arms. If I missed it or if this is somehow redundant/yesterday's news/something that will make someone angry... A million apologies.

I recently got a new upper for my home-defense AR-15. It looks pretty spiffy, I will post pics soon. The old upper had a MOE forearm with an IWC Dropwing light mount that held my 1.03 inch flashlight tucked in perfectly at 10:30. The new upper has a [dramatic music] quad-rail, [\dramatic music] specifically a Spike's BAR2. Of course my old light mount won't work...

What should I get? The choices aren't as good as I was expecting.

Here's what I've found after about a week of intensive research...

1. My fave at the moment is the VTAC. Can't beat the price, Kyle Lamb is awesome and there are some favorable reviews. But... It seems like it may extend up further than I'd like and not tuck in (be as close to the barrel). There are also complaints that the rail locking piece looks funny/sloppy.

2. The IWC/HSP Thorntail. A bit more expensive but all metal and it appears to tuck in but does it force the light to be forward of the mount? This could be very AFG-unfriendly on a SBR.

3. The Magpul light mount. Great price and it -oh so- appeals to my inner Magpul fan Boi...However, it looks HUGE and appears to push the light unnecessarily far from the barrel.

So... Anyone have a thought to share regarding these choices or something else?

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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by RickOShea » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:06 pm

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A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Dabster » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:01 am

Thanks, Rick!

I don't know why I didn't think of Vltor myself. Never had one but I've heard of them.

The Gearshift is nice looking but won't fit my light.

These led me to Elzetta (Elzetta ZRXB Tactical Flashlight Mount, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00APNKMOG/re ... 8ub1NVVY5D). This one looks promising -the limited reviews are all quite positive.
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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by RickOShea » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:44 am

Dabster wrote:The Gearshift is nice looking but won't fit my light.
If you're light is 1.03 inch, then the Gear Sector G2 would work. I have Surefire G2 lights in mine, and they're supposed to be between 1.02 and 1.03 inch.
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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by ShooterMike » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:03 am

I'm a big fan of the Inforce WML, both the original and the newer 500 lumen versions. I like them mounted at 12 o'clock, in front of the front sight. Totally ambidextrous as it can be operated equally well with the thumb of right or left hand on the hand guard.

Of course, it doesn't work that way if you have a hand guard that ends behind a fixed front sight...

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Post by Keith B » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:18 am

ShooterMike wrote:I'm a big fan of the Inforce WML, both the original and the newer 500 lumen versions. I like them mounted at 12 o'clock, in front of the front sight. Totally ambidextrous as it can be operated equally well with the thumb of right or left hand on the hand guard.

Of course, it doesn't work that way if you have a hand guard that ends behind a fixed front sight...
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Post by hotlead » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:26 am

I have an Elzetta mount on my M&P-15, I dig it, keeps the rifle light and skinny.

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Post by ashwednesday » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:56 pm

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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by raptor » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:31 pm

I found this mount both cheap (less than $8 here) and useful.

http://www.amazon.com/TACTICAL-JETBeam- ... NEADKJBTSE

The offset allows you mount it anywhere and keep it out of the sight line. It holds any 1 inch light.

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Post by RonnyRonin » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:33 pm

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I have both and think you can't go wrong with either. Vltor: easier to take on and off, Gear sector: lighter, more elegant.

I have a VTAC and I don't much care for it. it is cheap and it works but it is bulky and more fragile then I'd like. Also more work to take on and off then most mounts.
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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Dabster » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:07 pm

Thanks to all for your input. After extensive internet and soul searching, I went with the Elzetta ZRX (http://www.amazon.com/Elzetta-ZRXB-Tact ... ds=elzetta).

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It isn't fancy but it is light weight, small enough and rugged enough for my purposes. Installing it only took about three minutes. It puts my light exactly where I want it and it doesn't interfere with my grip.
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Post by RonnyRonin » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:35 pm

Dabster wrote:Thanks to all for your input. After extensive internet and soul searching, I went with the Elzetta ZRX (http://www.amazon.com/Elzetta-ZRXB-Tact ... ds=elzetta).

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It isn't fancy but it is light weight, small enough and rugged enough for my purposes. Installing it only took about three minutes. It puts my light exactly where I want it and it doesn't interfere with my grip.

now I'm curious, can you post a pic looking down the muzzle? I'd like to see how close it keeps the light to the bore.
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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Dabster » Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:49 am

RonnyRonin wrote:
Dabster wrote:Thanks to all for your input. After extensive internet and soul searching, I went with the Elzetta ZRX (http://www.amazon.com/Elzetta-ZRXB-Tact ... ds=elzetta).

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It isn't fancy but it is light weight, small enough and rugged enough for my purposes. Installing it only took about three minutes. It puts my light exactly where I want it and it doesn't interfere with my grip.

now I'm curious, can you post a pic looking down the muzzle? I'd like to see how close it keeps the light to the bore.
About half an inch...

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Post by hotlead » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:01 am

Bearcat wrote:I had the VTAC and hated it because I prefer to use the thumb over grip right against the FSB. Even if I'm not using the thumb over, I still like my hand at the end of the hand guard. Every weapon light mount I've tried that mounts on the side or hangs over the top has interfered with my grip. I have one of these elzettas on my training and duty AR. I love it. It doesn't get in the way of my hand and is easy to manipulate. The only con I've come across is the potential for the sling loop to knock into the on/off button, flashing it on in a moment that you may not want to, but this can be remedied by removing the sling mount.

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....or moving the light forward in the mount, but then you have to stick your finger or thumb in there to activate the light.
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Post by 0122358 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:21 am

Dabster wrote:
RonnyRonin wrote:
Dabster wrote:Thanks to all for your input. After extensive internet and soul searching, I went with the Elzetta ZRX (http://www.amazon.com/Elzetta-ZRXB-Tact ... ds=elzetta).

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It isn't fancy but it is light weight, small enough and rugged enough for my purposes. Installing it only took about three minutes. It puts my light exactly where I want it and it doesn't interfere with my grip.

now I'm curious, can you post a pic looking down the muzzle? I'd like to see how close it keeps the light to the bore.
About half an inch...

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Ok...anyway you could post a pic of your whole rifle and give specs? I'm interested in finding out what the rail looks like
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Post by Dave_M » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:22 pm

I personally don't use the Inforce. Because reasons

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Dave_M wrote:I personally don't use the Inforce. Because reasons

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Unorthodox wrote:
Dave_M wrote:I personally don't use the Inforce. Because reasons

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Post by TheLastOne » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:11 pm

saw that on Sagedynamic's or somebody's instagram the other day. Yikes.

I like the form factor and small foot print. Too bad. :words:
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Re: A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Rugger » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:46 pm

When I know I'm going to be outdoors, like hog/varmint hunting, I will switch out to the Streamlight TLR1-HPL. It's a super tight beam and will light up targets very clearly out past 100m at night. It's got a monster bezel/reflector compared to others, but that's what gives it the tight throw out at distances that others won't. When we're out hunting, folks make fun of the "search light" on my rifle, up until they start shooting at MY TARGETS that I'M lighting up. Indoors it's not as good as a regular TLR1, that will light up the entire room. It'll produce a nice neat circle on the wall that will reflect back into the room, so it works, just not as well.
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With that top photo, does the button actually engage with the tailcap restricted in the clamp like that?
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A rifle/carbine mounted weapon light thread

Post by Dabster » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:38 pm

0122358 wrote:
Dabster wrote:
RonnyRonin wrote:
Dabster wrote:Thanks to all for your input. After extensive internet and soul searching, I went with the Elzetta ZRX (http://www.amazon.com/Elzetta-ZRXB-Tact ... ds=elzetta).

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It isn't fancy but it is light weight, small enough and rugged enough for my purposes. Installing it only took about three minutes. It puts my light exactly where I want it and it doesn't interfere with my grip.

now I'm curious, can you post a pic looking down the muzzle? I'd like to see how close it keeps the light to the bore.
About half an inch...

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Ok...anyway you could post a pic of your whole rifle and give specs? I'm interested in finding out what the rail looks like
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The Elzetta light combined with the Magpul AFG make it really comfortable to hold and shoot.
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