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Re: Re: ar or ak...?

Post by Unorthodox » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:00 am

Regular Guy wrote:It could be hypothesized the pressures in the gas tube are quite similar.
Its actually addressed in the article you provided:
"The pressure in the barrel might be 16000 psi decaying to 10000 psi, but the pressure in the gas tube may only reach 8000 psi and decay to 5000 psi."
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zombie_kibble wrote:What kind of ammo were they running?
Filthy 14 was used as a loner gun to anyone who wanted it for EAG courses. BYOA, but Pat doesn't allow steel cased anything or Winchester Q3131A (White Box) to go through his loner guns. So barring that, you can assume almost every 5.56 round you can think of has been down that barrel (which as of June 2012 is over 44k)
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Re: ar or ak...?

Post by Czechnology » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:21 am

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TDW586 wrote: You happen to be talking to a group of pretty experienced guys. Three Marine combat veterans, at least three Army unless I missed one, and more importantly, we're all guys who have put thousands upon thousands of rounds downrange with AR type rifles.
The Air Force guy always gets forgot. I haz sadz pandaz. :ohdear: :lol:

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Some info on the pressure curve in the barrel. It could be hypothesized the pressures in the gas tube are quite similar.
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Czechnology wrote:We have a zoomie? Who is it? :awesome:
I was a Zoomer. That's right, we win wars from 30,000 feet. :awesome:
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Re: ar or ak...?

Post by Czechnology » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:35 am

Regular Guy wrote:
Czechnology wrote:We have a zoomie? Who is it? :awesome:
I was a Zoomer. That's right, we win wars from 30,000 feet. :awesome:
Not a lot of Taliban up there. Find any Messerschmitts? :ohdear:
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Re: ar or ak...?

Post by crypto » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:41 am

Regular Guy wrote:
Czechnology wrote:We have a zoomie? Who is it? :awesome:
I was a Zoomer. That's right, we win wars from 30,000 feet. :awesome:
It was my understanding that the last USAF serviceman to have useful input into the AR-15 was Curtis LeMay. :clownshoes:
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Re: ar or ak...?

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crypto wrote:
Regular Guy wrote:
Czechnology wrote:We have a zoomie? Who is it?
I was a Zoomer. That's right, we win wars from 30,000 feet. :awesome:
It was my understanding that the last USAF serviceman to have useful input into the AR-15 was Curtis LeMay. :clownshoes:
Oh, sick burn..... :lol:
Czechnology wrote: Not a lot of Taliban up there. Find any Messerschmitts? :ohdear:
We don't need to find them, we have thermobaric shit we drop down in their caves. :shock:
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Re: ar or ak...?

Post by AmnJoker333 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:25 pm

crypto wrote:
Regular Guy wrote:
Czechnology wrote:We have a zoomie? Who is it? :awesome:
I was a Zoomer. That's right, we win wars from 30,000 feet. :awesome:
It was my understanding that the last USAF serviceman to have useful input into the AR-15 was Curtis LeMay. :clownshoes:
[Airforce (non combat..maintenance guy here)]: Probably because the M-16's we qualify on (the lower receivers anyway) are from his era :clownshoes: [/Airforce]
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Re: ar or ak...?

Post by jackal556 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:47 pm

Since this has evolved into a discussion on malfunctions, I can honestly say that I cannot remember the last time I had any malfunction in either my issue M-16A2, Mini-14, or M-4A1. Years back, I had a double feed in my Mini from a bent lip on a magazine. As many blanks and cheap ammo I fired, I never had a problem. The last firing problem I saw was a squib simunition round (dented primer, round still on the "cartridge"). In my last rifle qual, I was tried to get a malfunction on the 300 yd rapid fire for a couple alibis, but my "bad" mag worked. Still qualed, Expert.

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