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Postby 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:19 pm

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the licensing to produce part.

I just remember my dad complaining about some shop refusing to sell him the stuff because he didn't have some permit.
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Postby Buddychrist » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:27 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Yeah, I wasn't sure about the licensing to produce part.

I just remember my dad complaining about some shop refusing to sell him the stuff because he didn't have some permit.


Send this to him and tell him to get on it!
That should be enough for the life of his truck or atleast until a rebuild!

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=330779152019&index=7&nav=SEARCH&nid=50880416445

What kind of truck does he have???
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Postby 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:35 pm

Buddychrist wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Yeah, I wasn't sure about the licensing to produce part.

I just remember my dad complaining about some shop refusing to sell him the stuff because he didn't have some permit.


Send this to him and tell him to get on it!
That should be enough for the life of his truck or atleast until a rebuild!

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=330779152019&index=7&nav=SEARCH&nid=50880416445

What kind of truck does he have???


Seeing as Dad died last month, it may be a bit hard for me to do that, dude.

He had an early 2000's model Chevy Silverado that got totaled when the big rig t-boned him and killed him.

I may see if my Explorer could benefit from an A/C flush and refill, though.
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby DarkAxel » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:42 pm

RickOShea wrote:The Larc M19 BB machingun from back in the early '80s. It ran on cans of freon and, IIRC, had a 3500 BB capacity and got up to about 3000rpm:

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that thing is like, a $10,000 dollar fine for every trigger pull? Releasing R12 into the atmosphere is a big no-no, isn't it?
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Postby Buddychrist » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:53 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Buddychrist wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Yeah, I wasn't sure about the licensing to produce part.

I just remember my dad complaining about some shop refusing to sell him the stuff because he didn't have some permit.


Send this to him and tell him to get on it!
That should be enough for the life of his truck or atleast until a rebuild!

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=330779152019&index=7&nav=SEARCH&nid=50880416445

What kind of truck does he have???


Seeing as Dad died last month, it may be a bit hard for me to do that, dude.

He had an early 2000's model Chevy Silverado that got totaled when the big rig t-boned him and killed him.

I may see if my Explorer could benefit from an A/C flush and refill, though.


Well sorry to hear that man you didn't tell us.

You shouldn't have to flush it unless you plan to change to a different freon.
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Postby Buddychrist » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:54 pm

DarkAxel wrote:
RickOShea wrote:The Larc M19 BB machingun from back in the early '80s. It ran on cans of freon and, IIRC, had a 3500 BB capacity and got up to about 3000rpm:

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that thing is like, a $10,000 dollar fine for every trigger pull? Releasing R12 into the atmosphere is a big no-no, isn't it?


You can make it run off of CO2 with a regulator and adapters.
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:01 pm

Buddychrist wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Seeing as Dad died last month, it may be a bit hard for me to do that, dude.

He had an early 2000's model Chevy Silverado that got totaled when the big rig t-boned him and killed him.

I may see if my Explorer could benefit from an A/C flush and refill, though.


Well sorry to hear that man you didn't tell us.

You shouldn't have to flush it unless you plan to change to a different freon.


Thanks.

I mentioned it in Firearms Chat and the regular Chat Thread in Off Topic, so I figured those two places were enough.
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Postby Buddychrist » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:55 pm

Hey man I didn't know, if I would have known I would have treaded softly.
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Postby 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:00 pm

Buddychrist wrote:Hey man I didn't know, if I would have known I would have treaded softly.


Don't worry about it, dude.

Me and the old man weren't exactly close anyway.

I think we may want to either continue this conversation via PM or in the Firearms Chat thread so we don't knock this one further off topic than we already have. Sound ok to you ?
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby Sledgecrowbar » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:16 pm

I sell auto parts, and can't sell R12 to a shop unless they have a license, and not all do. We don't carry the stuff in stock anymore because it's just not asked for, and so expensive now that it's cheaper to convert than to recharge with R12, R134a has gone way up in price the past few years itself.

It would be hard to fine someone for releasing R12, especially if their older vehicle's AC blew up, there's got to be a stipulation for accidental discharge. If you were caught by the right environmental officers using that BB gun, though, you'd have to play dumb really well, and even then you'd probably lose a toy that was worth money just for being such a bygone thing. Probably better to just work on a regular BB gun until its firing rate is up somewhere ridiculous and use regular CO2 or Nitrogen that's common to them.

DId this one get posted yet? 3-barrel, 3-action, siamese-d 3-magazine, bullpup... not sure what. Russian maybe? AK grip, right?

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Postby Buddychrist » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:40 pm

As I said before you can use a regulator and co2 instead of r12 freon. Just gotta have a good regulator and adaptor and it will work fine. If not better being able to up the psi 15-30lbs.

Yeah man PM me if you'd like to talk.
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby RickOShea » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:11 pm

Buddychrist wrote:As I said before you can use a regulator and co2 instead of r12 freon. Just gotta have a good regulator and adaptor and it will work fine. If not better being able to up the psi 15-30lbs.

Compressed air paintball tank would be better, no pressure drop-off like CO2 and freon when they freeze-up (which is why CO2 tanks pretty much went the way of the Dodo for the fast-firing electro-pneumatic paint markers).
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Postby DarkAxel » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:37 pm

Sledgecrowbar wrote:I sell auto parts, and can't sell R12 to a shop unless they have a license, and not all do. We don't carry the stuff in stock anymore because it's just not asked for, and so expensive now that it's cheaper to convert than to recharge with R12, R134a has gone way up in price the past few years itself.


During the last few years, HVAC shops in my AO have begun paying customers for the R-12 in old refrigerators, central heating/air pumps, and AC units during an upgrade. One auto shop offered free upgrades and AC refurbs if the auto had R-12 in it. From what I hear R-12 is a serious ozone killer, and the EPA offers a cash reward if you report someone releasing it into the atmosphere.


Of course, now it's easy to point at the guy who designed the Freon BB-gun and give him a hearty "HA-HA" Nelson-style, but hindsight is 20/20. The WTF I get from that BB gun is from the trigger. Take a good look at it. WTF, dude?
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Postby abelru » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:36 am

169 pages and I finally found sumptin' to be kontrib-u-tin.

To be honest, though... I'm not sure what the fuck it is

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Postby jamoni » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:52 am

I sure as hell hope that's photoshop. Looks like a Walther and a Luger made a baby. A horrible horrible baby.
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Postby Buddychrist » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:34 am

DarkAxel wrote:
Sledgecrowbar wrote:I sell auto parts, and can't sell R12 to a shop unless they have a license, and not all do. We don't carry the stuff in stock anymore because it's just not asked for, and so expensive now that it's cheaper to convert than to recharge with R12, R134a has gone way up in price the past few years itself.


During the last few years, HVAC shops in my AO have begun paying customers for the R-12 in old refrigerators, central heating/air pumps, and AC units during an upgrade. One auto shop offered free upgrades and AC refurbs if the auto had R-12 in it. From what I hear R-12 is a serious ozone killer, and the EPA offers a cash reward if you report someone releasing it into the atmosphere.


Of course, now it's easy to point at the guy who designed the Freon BB-gun and give him a hearty "HA-HA" Nelson-style, but hindsight is 20/20. The WTF I get from that BB gun is from the trigger. Take a good look at it. WTF, dude?



You're talking about ozone killing when one NASA space shuttle launch punches a 4+ million BTU hole directly in the ozone layer. One launch is like letting ten million 30lb r12 bottles open up and shooting it directly to the atmosphere.


Back on topic wtf why would you need two pistols in a rifle setup? Seriously that's nuts!

I wonder if the magazines are interchangeable? And are they the same caliber?
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby RickOShea » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:04 pm

Buddychrist wrote:Back on topic wtf why would you need two pistols in a rifle setup? Seriously that's nuts!

I wonder if the magazines are interchangeable? And are they the same caliber?

The bottom one looks like a Walther GSP. They come in .22LR and .32 S&W Long with 5 or 10 round mags.

The top one is a Luger, which would be chambered in .30 Luger or 9mm.
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Postby BullOnParade » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:55 pm

Yea, definitely not interchangeable, more than likely, not real.
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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby JTNieman » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:11 am

Buddychrist wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:
Sledgecrowbar wrote:I sell auto parts, and can't sell R12 to a shop unless they have a license, and not all do. We don't carry the stuff in stock anymore because it's just not asked for, and so expensive now that it's cheaper to convert than to recharge with R12, R134a has gone way up in price the past few years itself.


During the last few years, HVAC shops in my AO have begun paying customers for the R-12 in old refrigerators, central heating/air pumps, and AC units during an upgrade. One auto shop offered free upgrades and AC refurbs if the auto had R-12 in it. From what I hear R-12 is a serious ozone killer, and the EPA offers a cash reward if you report someone releasing it into the atmosphere.


Of course, now it's easy to point at the guy who designed the Freon BB-gun and give him a hearty "HA-HA" Nelson-style, but hindsight is 20/20. The WTF I get from that BB gun is from the trigger. Take a good look at it. WTF, dude?



You're talking about ozone killing when one NASA space shuttle launch punches a 4+ million BTU hole directly in the ozone layer. One launch is like letting ten million 30lb r12 bottles open up and shooting it directly to the atmosphere.


Back on topic wtf why would you need two pistols in a rifle setup? Seriously that's nuts!

I wonder if the magazines are interchangeable? And are they the same caliber?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/information/shuttle_faq.html#5
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Postby Buddychrist » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:32 am

JTNieman wrote:
Buddychrist wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:
Sledgecrowbar wrote:I sell auto parts, and can't sell R12 to a shop unless they have a license, and not all do. We don't carry the stuff in stock anymore because it's just not asked for, and so expensive now that it's cheaper to convert than to recharge with R12, R134a has gone way up in price the past few years itself.


During the last few years, HVAC shops in my AO have begun paying customers for the R-12 in old refrigerators, central heating/air pumps, and AC units during an upgrade. One auto shop offered free upgrades and AC refurbs if the auto had R-12 in it. From what I hear R-12 is a serious ozone killer, and the EPA offers a cash reward if you report someone releasing it into the atmosphere.


Of course, now it's easy to point at the guy who designed the Freon BB-gun and give him a hearty "HA-HA" Nelson-style, but hindsight is 20/20. The WTF I get from that BB gun is from the trigger. Take a good look at it. WTF, dude?



You're talking about ozone killing when one NASA space shuttle launch punches a 4+ million BTU hole directly in the ozone layer. One launch is like letting ten million 30lb r12 bottles open up and shooting it directly to the atmosphere.


Back on topic wtf why would you need two pistols in a rifle setup? Seriously that's nuts!

I wonder if the magazines are interchangeable? And are they the same caliber?
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/information/shuttle_faq.html#5


Regardless if it makes a hole or not there is no argument that a few bottles of R12 can do anything when compared to a shuttle launch. Also here is the MSDS for chlorine gas which is extremely toxic and put out by the space shuttles if you might not have known.

http://www.westlake.com/_filelib/FileCabinet/pdfs/MSDS_Chlorine.pdf

If you want to continue this discussion then PM me and I will be glad to talk about refrigerant, gasses, or any hazmat question you have since I am hazmat operational certified I know what I'm talking about.


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Postby Shiny .44 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:39 pm

Don't know if this has been posted yet, a 12 Gauge Revolver.
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Postby Yaivenov » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:49 pm

In the vein of shot-gun revolvers.... The Ots-62:

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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Postby Sledgecrowbar » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:44 pm

Buddychrist wrote:You're talking about ozone killing when one NASA space shuttle launch punches a 4+ million BTU hole directly in the ozone layer. One launch is like letting ten million 30lb r12 bottles open up and shooting it directly to the atmosphere.

Regardless if it makes a hole or not there is no argument that a few bottles of R12 can do anything when compared to a shuttle launch. Also here is the MSDS for chlorine gas which is extremely toxic and put out by the space shuttles if you might not have known.

http://www.westlake.com/_filelib/FileCabinet/pdfs/MSDS_Chlorine.pdf

If you want to continue this discussion then PM me and I will be glad to talk about refrigerant, gasses, or any hazmat question you have since I am hazmat operational certified I know what I'm talking about.


I detect truthiness. Why are we comparing CFCs to the space shuttle launch? The space shuttle doesn't launch anymore. CFCs have an altogether different effect on the ozone layer than heat energy, as well. They also remain in the atmosphere and reflect infrared wave energy coming up from the surface.

Chlorine is an element that Zombie Squad members use concentrated to sterilize water. Without it, we wouldn't have white underwear, swimming pools, or table salt, and living things need salt to keep on living. Halomethane, on the other hand, is what clever people would use* to fight Lucifer.

I'm not really interested in getting into this over private message, but whether or not R-12 is harmful isn't the point, the point is, it's a punishable offense to release the stuff into the atmosphere.

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