The All Purpose AK Thread

[Gray Gator]

How about the East German "Tobacco"AK Cleaning Kit.

[AKFTW]

How about the East German "Tobacco"AK Cleaning Kit.

I have that. I keep a .30 cal boresnake in it though

[Gray Gator]

How about the East German "Tobacco"AK Cleaning Kit.

I have that. I keep a .30 cal boresnake in it though

[AKFTW]

That cleaning kit is so overkill for an AK though, and on mine the pull-through would not even fit in the 7.62x39 barrel anyway. But it is a nice tin

[Gray Gator]

I prefer the kit. My .30 cal boresnake is my cleaning bag.

[Polley]

Just read the whole thread and wanted some confirmation. Is this a good checklist for starting in the world of AKs?

* Arsenal SGL-21-61 AK-47 Assault Rifle in 7.62x39 ($900) great choice
* 3x Bulgarian Waffle (Circle 10) magazines ($100), 6x 15x steel surplus mags ($70) ($170)
* Ares Armor Huskey Amentum 2-point sling ($50)
* 1000 rounds Brown Bear 7.62x39 ammo ($250)
* Hoppe’s cleaning solvent, Break-Free CLP lubricant filtered used motor oil, Hoppe’s BoreSnake, Chinese surplus SKS rifle buttstock cleaning kit, cotton rags old t-shirts ($50) ($30)
* Shooting the bullets at things by pulling the trigger over and over Practice shooting positions and trigger pull with dry-fire over and over, getting more training out of less rounds
* Later #1: Ultimak mounting rail, Aimpoint Micro red dot, 24mm A2 Birdcage Flash Hider, paint for front sight, Glow Inc., Watch Lume
* Later #2: MilCopp or similar carbine training camps
* Later #3: ACE folding stock, Manticore Nightshroud Flash Hider
* Unknown: Carrying bag or case (is this considered "concealed"?), storage safe
* Clean after every day of firing every year or two...

Add a chest rig and Mechanix gloves at the least...

Sounds nice, buy where's the shiny bayonet?

[Kutter_0311]

I prefer the kit. My .30 cal boresnake is my cleaning bag.

I prefer the snake, it is my cleaning kit Still trying to cram one into the tube that goes in the buttstock.

Add a chest rig and Mechanix gloves at the least...

Sounds nice, buy where's the shiny bayonet?

Jabby bits are best left to those inclined, either naturally or through indoctrination, to feel the need for jabby bits.

And I see no need to drive up the price of jabby bits by encouraging the masses to buy them.

However, if a good FH is jabby-friendly, I will encourage its purchase, for that will bring the price of that FH down, while increasing the odds I will find a spare rifle for my jabber once the world is free of ammunition, and humanity is left stabbing and clubbing each other to get along

[RickOShea]

I prefer the kit. My .30 cal boresnake is my cleaning bag.

A couple of those brushes could come in handy when you get too much detritus in the fire control group, and it starts acting hinky.

[Brapina]

You did not count Tactical Gear in there, but seems like a good list

Thanks! What do you mean by Tactical Gear? ACUs/BDUs? Chest rig? I really am trying to be comprehensive.

Chest rig to hold your full mags, dump pouch for your empties, holster for your pistol, hydration pack, etc. Basically the gear you need to run your rifle in a move-and-shoot scenario.

After scouring more of the forum and reading all about chest rigs and assorted gear, I need someone to pin me down and stop me from spending $500 on Tactical Tailor kit, 5.11s, etc.

[hatchtrikk]

Have you guys seen this? http://www.k-var.com/shop/M-47BA_New-Bu ... -lugs.html

Thoughts?

[RickOShea]

Have you guys seen this? http://www.k-var.com/shop/M-47BA_New-Bu ... -lugs.html

Thoughts?

Yeah, but I was under the impression that the waffles were the only decent 7.62 poly mags.

[m ellis allen]

Have you guys seen this? http://www.k-var.com/shop/M-47BA_New-Bu ... -lugs.html

Thoughts?

the internets are "a-flutter" about these. some say yay, and some nay. ill hold judgement until i see more reveiws.

edit look below

[Dave_M]

Skip. Lugs aren't fully steel. A friend picked up some the other day and ended up disappointed.

[hatchtrikk]

Skip. Lugs aren't fully steel. A friend picked up some the other day and ended up disappointed.

I figured they wouldn't be all that. Sticking to steel, I am.

[Polley]

Skip. Lugs aren't fully steel. A friend picked up some the other day and ended up disappointed.

Are they relatively close to what the AK-10# series uses, however? I'm interested for collecting purposes.

[JTNieman]

Skip. Lugs aren't fully steel. A friend picked up some the other day and ended up disappointed.

boooooo

I was just looking at them the other day, wondering about them.

[Kutter_0311]

Someone asked me how I would stick an X300 on an Ultimak rail in front of an AP Micro. I had no idea, until now.

Daniel Defense 1 O'Clock Offset Rail

[hatchtrikk]

Someone asked me how I would stick an X300 on an Ultimak rail in front of an AP Micro. I had no idea, until now.

Daniel Defense 1 O'Clock Offset Rail

You think it will be out of the sight picture with that?

[RickOShea]

Someone asked me how I would stick an X300 on an Ultimak rail in front of an AP Micro. I had no idea, until now.

Daniel Defense 1 O'Clock Offset Rail

You think it will be out of the sight picture with that?

It doesn't look like it would be much closer than a VLTOR off-set with a G2 light.

[Kutter_0311]

I was thinking, sitting on a top rail, hanging to the left, with an X300 on it, that it would be right where most righties have lights.

I like having one universal type of weaponlight, and I use SF X-series lights on my pistols.

[Polley]

The girlfriend and I finally tried shooting at 150m today. She did alright: hit around the target a lot and managed to hit it once (those miniature pop bottles can be a real turd) and I did the same. I was pretty disappointed with those results, but I believe most of it had to do with the optic. The ammunition might have also been a factor since I sighted in the 10/22 with Remington.

That said, I've been thinking about getting a higher-caliber "precision" rifle. I plan on collecting AKs, so that's where this thread comes in. I've been looking at Romanian PSLs since they fire the super-cheap 7.62x54mmR round, but I've seen that, with regular surplus, they'd get around 2.0 to 3.0 MOA accuracy which is no better than your typical AK. At the same time, I've seen Yugoslavian M76s in 7.92x57mm IS and 7.62x51mm NATO, but I'm unaware of what their accuracy is.

Any suggestions as to which of those two I should be looking at first (I'll probably end up with both anyway)?

[AKFTW]

The girlfriend and I finally tried shooting at 150m today. She did alright: hit around the target a lot and managed to hit it once (those miniature pop bottles can be a real turd) and I did the same. I was pretty disappointed with those results, but I believe most of it had to do with the optic. The ammunition might have also been a factor since I sighted in the 10/22 with Remington.

That said, I've been thinking about getting a higher-caliber "precision" rifle. I plan on collecting AKs, so that's where this thread comes in. I've been looking at Romanian PSLs since they fire the super-cheap 7.62x54mmR round, but I've seen that, with regular surplus, they'd get around 2.0 to 3.0 MOA accuracy which is no better than your typical AK. At the same time, I've seen Yugoslavian M76s in 7.92x57mm IS and 7.62x51mm NATO, but I'm unaware of what their accuracy is.

Any suggestions as to which of those two I should be looking at first (I'll probably end up with both anyway)?

Where have you ACTUALLY seen a M76 in .308? They make them, sure, but they do not import them (MG receiver and all that. They are officially semi only, but if you move the selector to the auto position they will fire in FA, from what I have heard about the rifle from the Yugoslav civil wars).

That said, the M76 is a badass gun and I would go for 8mm, since you have a mauser or two lying around anyway.

[Polley]

The girlfriend and I finally tried shooting at 150m today. She did alright: hit around the target a lot and managed to hit it once (those miniature pop bottles can be a real turd) and I did the same. I was pretty disappointed with those results, but I believe most of it had to do with the optic. The ammunition might have also been a factor since I sighted in the 10/22 with Remington.

That said, I've been thinking about getting a higher-caliber "precision" rifle. I plan on collecting AKs, so that's where this thread comes in. I've been looking at Romanian PSLs since they fire the super-cheap 7.62x54mmR round, but I've seen that, with regular surplus, they'd get around 2.0 to 3.0 MOA accuracy which is no better than your typical AK. At the same time, I've seen Yugoslavian M76s in 7.92x57mm IS and 7.62x51mm NATO, but I'm unaware of what their accuracy is.

Any suggestions as to which of those two I should be looking at first (I'll probably end up with both anyway)?

Where have you ACTUALLY seen a M76 in .308? They make them, sure, but they do not import them (MG receiver and all that. They are officially semi only, but if you move the selector to the auto position they will fire in FA, from what I have heard about the rifle from the Yugoslav civil wars).

That said, the M76 is a badass gun and I would go for 8mm, since you have a mauser or two lying around anyway.

There's one on GunBroker for $1,300.00 or so.

[Dave_M]

The DD offset will not work with the Ultimak rail.