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Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:19 pm
by MPMalloy
taipan821 wrote:Another question, regarding headspace gauges.

worth it? I'm not being picky at the moment about case dimensions, just wanting to make sure the case will load
I have always heard that headspacing is important.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:07 am
by Halfapint
taipan821 wrote:Another question, regarding headspace gauges.

worth it? I'm not being picky at the moment about case dimensions, just wanting to make sure the case will load
I'm not exactly clear on what it is (honestly) I resize all my cases, and inspect them carefully to see if anything is bulging or if there's cracks/etc. I've not yet come across a case that's showing signs of head space issues.
NapalmMan67 wrote:What do you consider bulk? Some vendors classify 100-500 bulk, others 1000+. Anyway...

Rocky Mountain Reloading, Missouri Bullet, Extreme Bullet, Everglades Ammo, Berrys, Mid South Shooters, Natchez, Montana Gold etc...


FWIW- I've been shooting the HiTek coated bullets from Missouri in both 9mm and 45, and they are great. Much easier to load than plated, but maybe that's just me.
Bulk is 1000+ for me. MP actually pointed out that some of the auction sites have bulk ammo for sale, so I've been looking through them to see what I can find. Thanks for the list! I'll check them out as well

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:14 pm
by NapalmMan67
Halfapint wrote:
taipan821 wrote:Another question, regarding headspace gauges.

worth it? I'm not being picky at the moment about case dimensions, just wanting to make sure the case will load
I'm not exactly clear on what it is (honestly) I resize all my cases, and inspect them carefully to see if anything is bulging or if there's cracks/etc. I've not yet come across a case that's showing signs of head space issues.
NapalmMan67 wrote:What do you consider bulk? Some vendors classify 100-500 bulk, others 1000+. Anyway...

Rocky Mountain Reloading, Missouri Bullet, Extreme Bullet, Everglades Ammo, Berrys, Mid South Shooters, Natchez, Montana Gold etc...


FWIW- I've been shooting the HiTek coated bullets from Missouri in both 9mm and 45, and they are great. Much easier to load than plated, but maybe that's just me.
Bulk is 1000+ for me. MP actually pointed out that some of the auction sites have bulk ammo for sale, so I've been looking through them to see what I can find. Thanks for the list! I'll check them out as well
8-)








For therapy I ran my 650XL after installing a few upgrade items and loaded 100/mol rounds of .45ACP. The press ran slicker than goose shit on wet grass.


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Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:07 pm
by Zed Hunter
For a swaying single stage press get the Lee classic cast. Much stronger than the C press and not that much more.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:10 pm
by brothaman
Just putting this out there... a good electronic auto charge/scale will make your reloading more enjoyable and easier for less money than a good progressive press. Just sayin'. Metering powder is a bitch. Metering extruded powder is a bigger bitch. The 'lectro charge/scale is sooooo choice. Charge is ready, waiting, and accurate by the time I seat a primer. Pour powder, set the pan down, seat the next primer and ,.. damn. Just like frickin' magic there's a perfectly metered charge waiting right there.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:13 am
by BullOnParade
I'm putting my casting production on steroids in the near future. Just a teaser post to get the ol' blood flowing.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:26 pm
by taipan821
well, an update.

Just put together 100 rounds, cci primers, 25 grains AR2206, 50 grain Zmax. waiting for a chance to go to the range to test them out

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:14 pm
by eugene
I finally got to test some tree fiddy seven loads. I couldn't get the chronometer to communicate with my phone so I recorded each test and wrote down each shot.
[YouTube]https://youtu.be/ADClPKwqous[/YouTube]
Creek made too much noise to hear me.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:59 am
by Zed Hunter
Just received my primers & powder from Graphs. Going to start on 3" .410 buckshot loads. Still need a roll crimper.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:04 am
by Zed Hunter
The Lee loader for .410 I just received is 30+ years old but works great. I de-capped all of my Super X hulls yesterday and started priming them.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:38 am
by Halfapint
Man with all the work on the property I haven't had the down time to reload. I'm up to a 5gallon buck full of spent 9mm, and about half a bucket of both 308 and 223. My roommate has been on a reloading spree however, he's loaded about 400 .270's for hunting season and weekly practice before hunting.

On a side note, he and I did load some ELD-X bullets for his .270 and my .308. Neither of us could get these things sighted in. With my 150's at 300 yds I'm shooting about 2MOA groups, he shoots about 4-5MOA. With the ELD-X I couldn't even get 1 MOA at 100yds, my buddy couldn't even get on paper half the time. I think I figured out his issue, he's got an older Model70 I believe it's a 1-12 twist, he's been shooting heavy bullets, I don't think the bullets are stabilizing and are going crazy. I'm having him drop down to 130gr bullets, hopefully those will stabilize better and not go all over. I've got a faster twist of 1-10 and I've shot 220gr bullets with no issues, the ELD-X's I think were 178gr, so not sure what my issue was.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm
by BullOnParade
So, without further delay, here's my newest addition to my casting set up ...

I started with a home made forge torch, built along the lines of some outlined on YouTube ... Inspired by designs like this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaaH1Sbr ... e=youtu.be

Instead of drilling through holes and using set screws to to secure everything in place, I took a 3/4 NPT - 1/8 NPT reducer, tapped the inside of the reducer, and secured my 1/8 nipple to the side I tapped, then used the 3/4 npt thread to secure the brass fittings into a black pipe cross, tightening until the fuel hole lined up with one of the perpendicular holes. I chose a cross instead of a plain T to allow for more air intake.

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Originally I thought I would just hang the cast iron pot from the handle, but that wasn't very safe. The pot was very easy to tip and when full of molten lead, would not have been fun. Here's a picture from my first trial run.

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The solution was a set of angled rods instead of a straight piece doubled back.
This actually worked out great. Originally I was going to weld them straight out from each other, but realized when mocking it up, the taper of the pot would force the arms open allowing the pot to rest on the side tabs.

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My regulator is set much lower than anyone on YouTube (around 3psi), but they're building foundries, presumably for steel and aluminum, and I'm melting lead. Melt time was very fast, next time i'll be starting with a full pot, which is optimum, so it should be even faster, I'll time it when I start her up.
Another great advantage is for alloying metals. When I was done, I flipped the pot just to see how much the lead would stick, it fell right out. I could stamp the details in that 25 pound puck and store it until I wanted to use that alloy again, without using a different pot.

I was able to process about 200 lbs of range scrap lead in 6 hours, and I see some easy changes I can make.

I am on the lookout for another cheap cast iron pot, I want to drill into the side and install a spigot of some sort, allowing for bottom pouring, and using more of the lead in the pot than the ladle method I used on Saturday.

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Quick edit: forgot one of my favourite parts - it all breaks apart or folds together into a nice, compact package for storing! The legs fold against the spine, the torch slides off and coils up with the fuel line and regulator, and the pot arms slide forward to pack flat. Very small space friendly.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:18 am
by flybynight
When looking at reloading data books they list by caliber and load data for several powders. I got to thinking is there a chart or book that lists by powders and their suitability to caliber? What I got to thinking bout is if you have a certain powder a quick reference to all calibers it could be used in and the load data.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:40 pm
by SRO1911
Many powder manufacturers will attach short lists of recommendations to their products. However a complete list such as you mentioned would be very difficult.
Add that many powders are capable of being used in calibers far outside of their ideal range and you have a true rats nest.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:14 am
by flybynight
SRO1911 wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:40 pm
Many powder manufacturers will attach short lists of recommendations to their products. However a complete list such as you mentioned would be very difficult.
Add that many powders are capable of being used in calibers far outside of their ideal range and you have a true rats nest.
yea .. thought so. The idea just floated through my head the other day. In my head , the scenario was Mutiple firearms in different calibers in a paw event . Quick referrence guide to which powder would work in dispariate cartridges.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:11 pm
by eugene
page 11 for example http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/ ... powder.pdf

I found a reference for Hodgdon once before but can't find it again.
But anyway the data doesn't show the recommended use for each powder so that takes more research.

You could use power pistol for 9mm, .40 and 10mm for example. But your going to have a hard time using one powder for say 9mm and .223 rifle.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:58 pm
by flybynight
eugene wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:11 pm
page 11 for example http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/ ... powder.pdf

I found a reference for Hodgdon once before but can't find it again.
But anyway the data doesn't show the recommended use for each powder so that takes more research.

You could use power pistol for 9mm, .40 and 10mm for example. But your going to have a hard time using one powder for say 9mm and .223 rifle.
OK That actually put me near what I was thinking about. ( not totally as I was hoping for a guide to any/all cartridges a particular powder can be used in and the load data for all cartridges.
When I clicked on your link from there I could click on different powders which led me to pages like this

https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders ... powderid=7

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:21 pm
by SRO1911
I stick a good variety of powders, with different loads for different firearms even within the same caliber.
That being said, I stick a few powders deep - Varget being the main. While it's not the best at any one thing (except my PRS 308...1k yards near moa) it seems to have an exceptionally wide application range. Pretty much any modern rifle cartridge, minus the largest magnums, can use varget.
I always start my load development with it, fined a "good enough " - then move on to refining and experimenting.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:52 pm
by eugene
You can do similar with other manufacturers, for example: https://www.hodgdon.com/titegroup/ then there is a list of calibers to choose from.

There are also online databases like
http://www.ammoguide.com/


I've consolidated this from the Hodgdon site for a high level

Code: Select all

Hodgdon   Target  Light Duty	Medium Duty	Magnum
HS6                     x           x              
HS7                                 x            x
H110                                x            x
H4227                               x            x
H4198           
HP38            x       x           x
Clays           x       x
International   
Universal       x       x           x
Tightgroup      x       x
Titewad         
H4895           
BL-C(2)         
H335            
Lil Gun                             x             x         
Longshot       
Then for both my 9mm and .357 I'm testing as many as possible

found the reference http://ns.hodgdon.com/usage.html I think its their old site.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:32 pm
by Zed Hunter
The former Hercules powers, now made by Alliant, red dot green dot and unique are my go to powders. They can be loaded in many pistol and rifle calibers as well as shotgun gages.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:36 pm
by eugene
hmm, I'm using unique in 9mm, looks like it may be decent for .357 as well. I'll have to test some.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:24 pm
by Halfapint
Set the press up for 9mm last night. cranked out about 800rds only about 4k more to go.

I'm curious does anyone use the Hornady bullet feed for 9mm? I just have the tubes not the electric feed, but I cannot get my bullets to feed properly. I've figured out the issue after spending hours and hours working on it. the feed is just a little bit wider than the bullets so they are able get caught on the little ridge between the feed and the part that stops the bullets from falling through. I cant see how to fix this, and why I'm having such an issue when I check online no one else is (clearly operator error?). Perhaps because I'm using Berry's bullets? I'm completely stumped, so I have to feed each bloody bullet into the case.

Good thing I'm really awesome at tedious jobs.

Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:18 pm
by eugene
Prepping some rounds for the INCH gun
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Updated my "recipe" card format as well
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Re: Press therapy - reloading room *chat*

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:06 pm
by boskone
Ordered a case gauge for my 6.5 Grendel, some CFE223 which is supposed to work well for 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel, and some 6.5mm 123gr Hornady ELD.

My first effort will be to get performance similar to the Hornady ELD that were the donor for my brass, then maybe fiddle with loads a bit to see if I can get better.

But once it gets warmer. Aside from comfort, for some reason I just don't like the idea of reloading with a heater sitting next to me, and my garage is entirely unsuited to general climate control. (It's barely suited to anything...stupid modern "2 car" garages.)