DUMBEST F*&@king thing you've ever heard NOT ON THE ZS FORUM

[AKFTW]

I'm not an expert on guns so I could be the dumbass here but I just started reading fight club the novel and on the first page it says all you have to do to silence a gun is drill a bunch of holes in the barrel which slows the bullet down to subsonic speeds. Again, I'm no expert but this had my bullshit detector singing.

oh shit, what have I been wasting my money on then!?

Most of the Fight Club weapons info (how to make napalm out of orange juice and gasoline iirc, how to silence a weapon by drilling holes in it, etc) came straight from the Anarchist's Cookbook AKA how to foolishly blow yourself up.

I am convinced that The Anarchists Cookbook was a supreme example of government trolling

[Silent Kube]

In case anyone is interested, here's the whole passage.

"With my tongue I can feel the silencer holes we drilled into the barrel of the gun. Most of the noise a gunshot makes is expanding gasses, and there's the tiny sonic boom a bullet makes because it travels so fast. To make a silencer, you just drill holes in the barrel of the gun, a lot of holes. This lets the gas escape and slows the bullet to below the speed of sound.
You drill the holes wrong and the gun will blow off your hand."

At least he had the last part somewhat right. Although I'm guessing this is a sort of disclaimer in case someone decides to try it.

I just hope the anti gun people don't get ahold of this and try to ban any gun with a compensator. Or a flash hider for that matter.

[Czechnology]

the quake then tsunami hit Japan. and ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED a significant population area... what did they do. Riot? Loot? Shoot at the army choppers?

nope. they stood patiently in lines they themselves established, took only what they needed from store owners who openly gave with out charge what little they had....

Holy crap. No comparison. that kinda societal commitment is with out comparison

That's a shame, isn't it, that something like that- the reactions, not the disaster- stands out so much because of it's rarity.

Well, keep in mind that the price paid for that kind of societal commitment is a history of suicide when one falls out of social grace, and a similar history of extremely violent homicide when one, for usually cosmetic reasons, can never achieve social acceptance in the first place. Pre-teen in my prefecture decapitated his toddler neighbor and mounted the kids head on the spiked fence of his school's entrance because he snapped after a lifetime of social rejection because a generation or two back was a black GI, and the kid had slightly curly hair and was a shade or so darker than his peers.

You don't get extreme societal discipline for free.

In case anyone is interested, here's the whole passage.

"With my tongue I can feel the silencer holes we drilled into the barrel of the gun. Most of the noise a gunshot makes is expanding gasses, and there's the tiny sonic boom a bullet makes because it travels so fast. To make a silencer, you just drill holes in the barrel of the gun, a lot of holes. This lets the gas escape and slows the bullet to below the speed of sound.
You drill the holes wrong and the gun will blow off your hand."

At least he had the last part somewhat right. Although I'm guessing this is a sort of disclaimer in case someone decides to try it.

I just hope the anti gun people don't get ahold of this and try to ban any gun with a compensator. Or a flash hider for that matter.

Bingo. Chuck also intentionally got the ratio of frozen OJ/gasoline wrong in his recipe for Napalm in the same book.

[Kommander]

I think its funny the number of people who think there is some sort of secret vodoo to suppressors when they operate the same way a car muffler does.

[Czechnology]

I think its funny the number of people who think there is some sort of secret vodoo to suppressors when they operate the same way a car muffler does.

[yossarian]

So wait, you're telling me that if I get a Glock and a drill press then I can have a completely silent pistol that passes through metal detectors? That would be the most deadliest weapon ever.

[Dogan]

So wait, you're telling me that if I get a Glock and a drill press then I can have a completely silent pistol that passes through metal detectors? That would be the most deadliest weapon ever.

Absotively. Just find yourself some of those heat-seeking incendiary bullets and a shoulder thing that goes up, a barrel shroud and you can rule the world. But first convert it to .22 for obvious reasons.

[techmonkey]

So wait, you're telling me that if I get a Glock and a drill press then I can have a completely silent pistol that passes through metal detectors? That would be the most deadliest weapon ever.

Absotively. Just find yourself some of those heat-seeking incendiary bullets and a shoulder thing that goes up, a barrel shroud and you can rule the world. But first convert it to .22 for obvious reasons.

Just chamber it for this guy.

[Shiloh]

"Carrying concealed is useless. Since most engagements occur at such close range, I can guaruntee you won't be able to draw before the bad guy is on top of you. Better to just run or give him what he wants."

[squinty]

"Carrying concealed is useless. Since most engagements occur at such close range, I can guaruntee you won't be able to draw before the bad guy is on top of you. Better to just run or give him what he wants."

Good one! I hear this ^ a lot.

Guarantee is a strong word, but certainly drawing from concealment when an aggressor has the drop on you presents a tough challenge. And of course, running or complying are strategies that are still open to you whether you carry concealed or not. There are plenty of documented incidents where concealed carriers have successfully defended themselves, but some people choose to ignore evidence.

I don't know why anti-gun types always assume that 1) the defender will have no other training, nor any other option, except for a static quick draw vs. an armed opponent, and 2) the defender will never avail themselves of any other self defense technique, like moving off the x, deflecting an attackers weapon, striking the attacker, or breaking and running if there's a chance to get away.

To be fair, many gun owners pretend that just having a gun is all they need to do to feel protected - thus living up to the clueless image anti ccw types try to paint.

I've heard this conversation between two people, in a car, at a gas station where we pulled over for gas and road food:

First person: "I don't like the looks of these guys milling around outside the convenience store. Maybe we should go a block or two down and use a different gas station."
Second person: "Why? You've got your gun on you don't you?"
Me: "OW!" (injured myself facepalming.)

Lot's of anti gun types think concealed carriers believe in the "gun as magic wand/lucky charm," and are so incompetent with their weapons as to be a danger to themselves and others. It behooves gun owners to be smarter and better trained than the antis give us credit for being.

[DarkAxel]

You know, putting a bunch of statements made by people who don't like guns into a thread called "DUMBEST Fucking Thing You've Ever Heard" kinda makes it seem like ZS is calling people who don't like guns stupid. I thought we didn't do that sort of thing here.

[SeerSavant]

You know, putting a bunch of statements made by people who don't like guns into a thread called "DUMBEST Fucking Thing You've Ever Heard" kinda makes it seem like ZS is calling people who don't like guns stupid. I thought we didn't do that sort of thing here.

Actually....People who DO like guns can also be incredibly stupid as well.


I get your point... but I think the emphasis here has been mostly on humor, and not on ridicule...

[BigDaddyTX]

You know, putting a bunch of statements made by people who don't like guns into a thread called "DUMBEST Fucking Thing You've Ever Heard" kinda makes it seem like ZS is calling people who don't like guns stupid. I thought we didn't do that sort of thing here.

A lot of the quotes are by gun owners who are idiots. It's easily working both ways if an anti-gunner found it. "See how stupid gun owners are?"

[DarkAxel]

You know, putting a bunch of statements made by people who don't like guns into a thread called "DUMBEST Fucking Thing You've Ever Heard" kinda makes it seem like ZS is calling people who don't like guns stupid. I thought we didn't do that sort of thing here.

A lot of the quotes are by gun owners who are idiots. It's easily working both ways if an anti-gunner found it. "See how stupid gun owners are?"

The problem I'm having is that some of you guys posting here are making sure you let everyone know you are refuting anti-gun arguments. I don't see anything wrong with nitpicking factual points made by anti-gunners (see "Shoulder thing that goes up"), but when you guys post stuff like "Anti-gunners believe X and here's why that is stupid", or "X is stupid and anti-gunners endorse X" you are trying to make a pro-gun political statement.The Intended Purpose posts come to mind.

Fake EDIT: I sent a friend here for prep advice, and this thread turned her off to ZS (She's an anti-gunner). That's why I made my preceding post.

[TDW586]

The problem I'm having is that some of you guys posting here are making sure you let everyone know you are refuting anti-gun arguments. I don't see anything wrong with nitpicking factual points made by anti-gunners (see "Shoulder thing that goes up"), but when you guys post stuff like "Anti-gunners believe X and here's why that is stupid", or "X is stupid and anti-gunners endorse X" you are trying to make a pro-gun political statement.The Intended Purpose posts come to mind.

Fake EDIT: I sent a friend here for prep advice, and this thread turned her off to ZS (She's an anti-gunner). That's why I made my preceding post.

The specific arguments mentioned here are idiotic and illogical. I don't see how it's offensive to show that some arguments made in support of a political position are stupid, nor is that saying that everyone who holds that position is stupid. It sounds like your friend is a little over-sensitive.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

You know, putting a bunch of statements made by people who don't like guns into a thread called "DUMBEST Fucking Thing You've Ever Heard" kinda makes it seem like ZS is calling people who don't like guns stupid. I thought we didn't do that sort of thing here.

A lot of the quotes are by gun owners who are idiots. It's easily working both ways if an anti-gunner found it. "See how stupid gun owners are?"

The problem I'm having is that some of you guys posting here are making sure you let everyone know you are refuting anti-gun arguments. I don't see anything wrong with nitpicking factual points made by anti-gunners (see "Shoulder thing that goes up"), but when you guys post stuff like "Anti-gunners believe X and here's why that is stupid", or "X is stupid and anti-gunners endorse X" you are trying to make a pro-gun political statement.The Intended Purpose posts come to mind.

Fake EDIT: I sent a friend here for prep advice, and this thread turned her off to ZS (She's an anti-gunner). That's why I made my preceding post.

An anti-gunner got turned off by a post in the firearms thread? :SHOCK:

In all seriousness, steer here away from the Other Weapons and Firearms boards then. There's a difference between laughing at general derp (shoulder thing that goes up, as well as "I carried a desert eagle and made my own street sweeper when I was in Iraq!) and the sort of "silly anti-gunner" stuff that crops up here. Fact of the matter is, MOST of us believe that a firearm is the current peak of self defense available to a civilian, and while not the sole answer, it's a damn good start.

that said, I do not mean to insult your friend, but if our firearms section turned off a budding prepper, I look forward to hearing what she finds as far as other prep sites. Most the others I've found are more militant, if not violently mall-ninja-ly pro-bazooka.

[Czechnology]

If someone can point out where a political ideology was attacked, please do and I'll deal with it.

Plenty of people all across the political spectrum love/hate firearms. "Pro/Anti-gun" does not immediately indicate a political party or ideology. Portland is full of people who own guns that voted for Obama. If you think hating guns automatically makes you anything other than someone who hates guns, then maybe you should stop generalizing.

if our firearms section turned off a budding prepper, I look forward to hearing what she finds as far as other prep sites. Most the others I've found are more militant, if not violently mall-ninja-ly pro-bazooka.

Boy is that ever true. Tell your friend to give ZS another try, but stay out of the sections that don't appeal to her, if she's easily upset by them. If ZS had a "How to use Mayonnaise" section, you can bet your ass I wouldn't go in there because fuck a bunch of mayonnaise.

[PotatoMuncher]

If ZS had a "How to use Mayonnaise" section, you can bet your ass I wouldn't go in there because fuck a bunch of mayonnaise.

This single handedly brightened my day. I just might use this phrase from now on. Thank you, sir.

[Dogan]

I do believe I shall use the "It's a tautology; Statistically insignificant" argument to refute a massive piece of idiocy I had vomited in my face recently, regarding pedophilia and adult stores. Something along the lines of the gun suicides and gun homicides not being so much about guns, about how if you remove the guns those suicides and murders will still happen, just through different outlets (pills, razors, ropes, great heights and clubs, hands, knives, rocks are what I plan to use, respectively) renders using them as validations for an argument null, ala "Ban guns and gun-related suicides/homicides disappear." I'm going to rework it though to be about toys and pedophilia, as someone flat out said "If we didn't have adult shops we'd have less pedophilia because items from adult shops are used in pedophilia." Going to come back with "That follows the same illogic as saying 'If we ban guns, we'll decrease suicides/homicides because guns are used in suicides/homicides.' Bluntly, the incidences will still occur in all these cases, just via different methods. You will not change the incidence per capita. All of the incidences will still occur, just not with toys from adult shops or with guns from gun stores."

You have inspired me, thread.

Carry on.

[DarkAxel]

If someone can point out where a political ideology was attacked, please do and I'll deal with it.

Plenty of people all across the political spectrum love/hate firearms. "Pro/Anti-gun" does not immediately indicate a political party or ideology. Portland is full of people who own guns that voted for Obama. If you think hating guns automatically makes you anything other than someone who hates guns, then maybe you should stop generalizing.

if our firearms section turned off a budding prepper, I look forward to hearing what she finds as far as other prep sites. Most the others I've found are more militant, if not violently mall-ninja-ly pro-bazooka.

Boy is that ever true. Tell your friend to give ZS another try, but stay out of the sections that don't appeal to her, if she's easily upset by them. If ZS had a "How to use Mayonnaise" section, you can bet your ass I wouldn't go in there because fuck a bunch of mayonnaise.

I get what you are saying, and Doc does have a point.

I posted what I did last night because I was a little drunk and upset after talking to my friend. My panties are unbunched now, so don't mind me and carry on with the derp.

On Topic:

A buddy of mine said "Give me a revolver any day. Automatics jam too much". I looked at him for a minute, then said, "What kind of automatics have you shot"?

"Hi-Points".

[TDW586]

A buddy of mine said "Give me a revolver any day. Automatics jam too much". I looked at him for a minute, then said, "What kind of automatics have you shot"?

"Hi-Points".

Winning. You are forgiven.

[0122358]

My friend on a recent camping trip (he was drunk)

Friend: Why did you bring so much ammo for you rifle?
Me: What? my AR15? Becuase i have 7 magazines and theyre 30 rounders so i want them full, doesnt make much sense to only fill them half way.
Friend: how long do think youd survive in a firefight?
Me: I wouldnt survive...i have no training and right now i cant hit shit past 50 yards...plus im probably not that lucky. What about you?
Friend: Oh id be just fine. I would run away
Me: How would you run away if you got rounds coming down range at you?
Friend: Becuase youve got that fancy rifle with all that ammo so we would just have you suppress them while we run away.

Its nice to know who your real friends are First they berate you...then ask for your help...

also reminds me of another trip where we were hiking back to the trucks and passed some fellow hikers. We had with us a 3030, stevens 16ga shotty, and my AR15. Anyway as we passes the hikers they saw:

The 3030: hmm ok (keeps on hiking, says hello)
The shotgun: Hello there (keeps hiking)
My AR15: Holy SHIT! (the dad pulls his son behind him to hide him and they freeze...and stare at me, all bug eyes and scared) I just nod hello and keep on hiking

[Czechnology]

also reminds me of another trip where we were hiking back to the trucks and passed some fellow hikers. We had with us a 3030, stevens 16ga shotty, and my AR15. Anyway as we passes the hikers they saw:

The 3030: hmm ok (keeps on hiking, says hello)
The shotgun: Hello there (keeps hiking)
My AR15: Holy SHIT! (the dad pulls his son behind him to hide him and they freeze...and stare at me, all bug eyes and scared) I just nod hello and keep on hiking

I had a mother shield her son with her body as I walked past her open-carrying (as was required by the law in Virginia at the time) in a grocery store. I stifled a laugh and waved politely and then continued ignoring them.

[squinty]

I went into a Grateful Bread Company across the street from my house, open carrying. Everyone was nice and polite, made cheerful small talk, the waitress commented on my bay rum cologne but nobody mentioned the firearm at all or even seemed to notice it. I ate a baguette and some kind of saffron squash soup, paid, tipped and left. Heard the door lock behind me as soon as I was outside, and when I went back the next day there was a "no weapons" sign posted on the door at eye level.