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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:19 pm

hatchtrikk wrote:So I ended up with a Triji Accupoint 3-9x40 and an ADM Recon mount for the wife's XMAS build.

How do I figure out how far back/forward on the receiver it needs to be mounted? I plan to give it to her sighted at 25yrds so she can do the final adjustment out to 200.

Thanks!

Put her behind the rifle in a shooting position and adjust it until she see no scope shadow, but sees the full FOV. They should have a recommended eye relief to get you started.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:22 pm

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hatchtrikk wrote:So I ended up with a Triji Accupoint 3-9x40 and an ADM Recon mount for the wife's XMAS build.

How do I figure out how far back/forward on the receiver it needs to be mounted? I plan to give it to her sighted at 25yrds so she can do the final adjustment out to 200.

Thanks!

Put her behind the rifle in a shooting position and adjust it until she see no scope shadow, but sees the full FOV. They should have a recommended eye relief to get you started.

No real way to do that without her, eh? It's going to be a surprise so your recommendation won't be possible until after XMAS.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby RickOShea » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:23 pm

hatchtrikk wrote:So I ended up with a Triji Accupoint 3-9x40 and an ADM Recon mount for the wife's XMAS build.

How do I figure out how far back/forward on the receiver it needs to be mounted? I plan to give it to her sighted at 25yrds so she can do the final adjustment out to 200.

Thanks!

My SWFA 1-4x has 3.75" of eye relief, and I shoot just a hair back from NACH. That Accupoint is supposed to be between 3.2" and 3.6", so you could mount it about the same place as mine, or maybe 0.25" to 0.5" further back.

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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:38 pm

hatchtrikk wrote:
Doc Torr wrote:
hatchtrikk wrote:So I ended up with a Triji Accupoint 3-9x40 and an ADM Recon mount for the wife's XMAS build.

How do I figure out how far back/forward on the receiver it needs to be mounted? I plan to give it to her sighted at 25yrds so she can do the final adjustment out to 200.

Thanks!

Put her behind the rifle in a shooting position and adjust it until she see no scope shadow, but sees the full FOV. They should have a recommended eye relief to get you started.

No real way to do that without her, eh? It's going to be a surprise so your recommendation won't be possible until after XMAS.


Interwebz says: 3.2-3.6 inches. You're gonna have to get her on it to be exact, cuz that varies by where he cheek weld is.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:17 pm

Thanks Doc and Rick.

I'll sight it in and fine tune it with her after she gets it. So excited :clap:
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby 7.62-ARMO » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:10 am

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7.62-ARMO wrote:I've never even been at those ranges, and honestly never will, especially with this rifle. But in case I need go up to 300-ish ranges I'd like to be able to adjust the scope to help me a bit.

You may also want to look at a Huber ball-bearing trigger for your Mosin. I put one on a Lee-Enfield SMLE and it cut my group sizes almost in-half.

http://www.huberconcepts.com/Mosin-Nagant_Trigger_Replacement.htm

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/177547/huber-concepts-match-grade-rifle-trigger-mosin-nagant-steel-matte



Wow, $80. I don't understand how the trigger helps with the groupings though. I don't think I'll be getting it just yet, but it def will be on the list of things to get.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby TDW586 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 am

You don't understand how a trigger relates to accuracy?

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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby theotherryan » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:04 pm

NonExistence wrote:I'm wanting to find an illuminated scope with adjustable power (I like the idea of 2.5-10) that has a reticle bright enough to be seen in the day consistently. I was going to get a nice red dot, but trying a 4x scope helps with the fact my vision sucks and helps me get past my left eye dominance by basically making my weak eye "see" better than the strong one. I like Illumination due to quick acquisition,

I like the idea of the ACOG, but I have heard the tritium will fade with age, and would no longer be useful after 10-15 years. Maybe not the best reason to not want a scope, but I would much rather exchange several batteries than have something slowly wear down as the half lives of the tritium go on with time.

Also, currently not too hip on the idea of an ACOG price tag. I don't plan on this optic, or this rifle, being the ones I would have to depend on to fight for my life with, so something in the low hundreds would be ideal, but I would be more inclined to spend more on an opic if it will fit my needs better.

Not totally against an ACOG, if it truly fits my needs best. I would just prefer something battery powered, and would like to avoid the cost of an ACOG.


The half life of tiitium is something like 12 years. That means in 12 years a scope or night sight with it will be half as bright.

I have an ACOG and really like them as an all around optic. Bought it because it is what I used at work and I really like them. You can shoot CQB or at hundreds of meters with them during the day or in twilight. That being said at about a grand they are spendy. If I had it to do over again (or repeat it on another rifle) I would probably go with a 1x3 power variable with a light up reticle like the Leatherwood or Leupold.

If I wanted an optic just for CQB I would get an aimpoint.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby The7thNazgul » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:37 pm

Arise, arise!

I have a buddy looking into getting a 1-4x scope for his AR.

What would you guys say is the cheapest 1-4x that is still, you know, good? Clear, durable and holds zero?

Thanks in advance, guys.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby RickOShea » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:48 pm

The7thNazgul wrote:Arise, arise!

I have a buddy looking into getting a 1-4x scope for his AR.

What would you guys say is the cheapest 1-4x that is still, you know, good? Clear, durable and holds zero?

Thanks in advance, guys.

These ain't bad: http://swfa.com/Millett-1-4x24-DMS-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P9251.aspx
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby 0122358 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:56 pm

RickOShea wrote:
The7thNazgul wrote:Arise, arise!

I have a buddy looking into getting a 1-4x scope for his AR.

What would you guys say is the cheapest 1-4x that is still, you know, good? Clear, durable and holds zero?

Thanks in advance, guys.

These ain't bad: http://swfa.com/Millett-1-4x24-DMS-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P9251.aspx

ohhh :ooh: i like that...i might have to get that for my AR or one of the futre builds at least
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby RickOShea » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:04 pm

0122358 wrote:ohhh :ooh: i like that...i might have to get that for my AR or one of the futre builds at least

I have two of those Milletts, one on an SKS and one on a .22, and they've held-up fairly well.

Heck, I put one of them on my .375 Ruger and shot twenty rounds thru it without breaking it. :clap:

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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby cemoulton » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:20 pm

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4 inches of eye relief make for very fast two eyes open target acquisition
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby 0122358 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:39 pm

RickOShea wrote:
0122358 wrote:ohhh :ooh: i like that...i might have to get that for my AR or one of the futre builds at least

I have two of those Milletts, one on an SKS and one on a .22, and they've held-up fairly well.

Heck, I put one of them on my .375 Ruger and shot twenty rounds thru it without breaking it. :clap:

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So general question...when using a 1x power scope...what does that mean exactly? is it mgnified at all or is it like a pseudo red dot?

How does it work for quick shooting and eye relief or paralax?
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby RickOShea » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:07 pm

0122358 wrote:So general question...when using a 1x power scope...what does that mean exactly? is it mgnified at all or is it like a pseudo red dot?

How does it work for quick shooting and eye relief or paralax?

A 1x is the same as your regular eyes. A "true 1x" optic could be used just like a red dot, with both eyes open. You just gotta be careful, some advertised 1x scopes are actually 1.1x or 1.25x.

The amount of parallax at low power levels is so small, that most low power scopes don't come with a parallax adjustment. Because it's still a traditional-style optic, a variable power scope that starts at 1x is still going to have a set amount of eye relief.....Unlike a fixed 1x red dot that can have an unlimited eye relief.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby 0122358 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:15 pm

RickOShea wrote:
0122358 wrote:So general question...when using a 1x power scope...what does that mean exactly? is it mgnified at all or is it like a pseudo red dot?

How does it work for quick shooting and eye relief or paralax?

A 1x is the same as your regular eyes. A "true 1x" optic could be used just like a red dot, with both eyes open. You just gotta be careful, some advertised 1x scopes are actually 1.1x or 1.25x.

The amount of parallax at low power levels is so small, that most low power scopes don't come with a parallax adjustment. Because it's still a traditional-style optic, a variable power scope that starts at 1x is still going to have a set amount of eye relief.....Unlike a fixed 1x red dot that can have an unlimited eye relief.

how well will "two eyes open" work for me since ive only got one working eye...thats always made me wonder.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby RickOShea » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:50 pm

0122358 wrote:how well will "two eyes open" work for me since ive only got one working eye...thats always made me wonder.

Unless I'm not gettin' what you're saying, it would still be like looking thru a scope with one eye closed. Or looking thru a red dot with one eye closed.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby leatherface_y2k » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:29 pm

Just because I haven't this set up (mine) posted here, just to give an idea of how it looks.

Stag Model 2, Nikon ProStaff 4-16x mil-dot reticle on a Burris PEPR qd mount. I'm very impressed how it holds zero after detaching and remounting. Glass is very clear edge to edge and seems to gather the available light very well.

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20 rd group of Fed XM193 at 100 yds, scope taken out of the range bag and mounted after being off the rifle for a couple of weeks. Things open up after about 10 rounds.. I get impatient with the trigger.. :x

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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby Makarov » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:40 pm

leatherface_y2k wrote: ...a Burris PEPR qd mount. I'm very impressed how it holds zero after detaching and remounting.

Any chance of a more in dept review and some pictures of this mount?

I'm going to change out the old Meopta 1-4 scope on my competition gun with something better in the next couple of months, and I'm thinking of moving it to my .22 upper. While I'm a huge LaRue-whore, and have it mounted in a LT104 now, I don't think that I'll swing for an extra LaRue-mount just for my .22. The PEPR QD has caught my eye as an alternative(since they can be had for $89), and I'd love to see a indept review of the QD and return to zero.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby 0122358 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:32 am

RickOShea wrote:
hatchtrikk wrote:Which mount do I want? http://www.americandefensemanufacturing ... opemounts/

I'm open to other brands, but I really like the ADM mounts on my TangoDown and Aimpoint.

Is it going on a regular flat-top AR (not a monolithic or some such)?

I have the "AD-Scout" on one of mine, been going strong for over three years now. But some folks don't like the single throw lever and get the "AD-Recon" with double levers.

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Hey rick...you got anymore info on that mount? do they mke lower hieght ones? Also...have any more pics of that set up or simular ones?
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby R_C_S » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:12 pm

All right, so this mount was in this thread earlier (page 4), and I was wondering if anyone else had it and wanted to share experiences.

http://rsregulate.com/products.php

Kinda' interested in getting it on my S12.
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:59 am

Alright, I'm looking to get a mini red dot for this Krink pistol that's getting SBR'd.
Here's my short list and I'm asking for opinions because I'm considering not getting an EOtech or an Aimpoint which is pretty out there for me.
My short list is as such:
1. T1 Aimpoint 2 MOA. Bad ass, top choice. $600
2. Trijicon 3.25 MOA RMR LED. Not the fiber optic one. $650
3. Leupold 7.5 MOA Triangle Delta Point. $400, I'm sure it's top quality but I'm concerned with durability.

Or should I just take the Micro Aimpoint off my AR, put it on the Krink and get a EOtech 512 for $415.

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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby hatchtrikk » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:38 am

Where are you mounting the RDS? Ultimak, Stormwerks or Midwest?
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Re: All Purpose Optics and Mounts Thread

Postby Regular Guy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:45 am

hatchtrikk wrote:Where are you mounting the RDS? Ultimak, Stormwerks or Midwest?


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