Remington 870 bayonet lug

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Remington 870 bayonet lug

Post by Jeriah » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:20 am

Anybody have any idea where to get one? I know they exist; the military 870s the Marines used had them. But I've never seen them offered for sale. Reason is, I love my Remmy, it's a great set-up, top folding stock, 20" barrel, great gun. I don't want to go any buy a Mossberg 590 just for the bayonet lug. BUT, it'd really like to have the option of a bayonet, for PAW hunting of dangerous game, like pigs. Just as a last resort, having the end of my gun be sharp might come in handy. Also, I suppose, for CQB. I realize it won't come in handy THAT often (which is why I don't want to buy a whole new gun for the purpose) but it'd be nice to have the option.
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Post by ghostface » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:07 am

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I have an 18" barrel. Anything I get close enough to stab will surely stab me in response. That being said, I'd love to see an 870 with a pigsticker on it.
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Post by jor-el » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:44 am

My guess would be finding one of those AR15 bayonet adaptors and ream it out to fit the shottie's barrel. Then attach a muzzle tube to make the 22mm OD you need to fit the bayonet ring.

All else fails, buy a Mossberg 590 with GI barrel.
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Post by Jeriah » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:14 pm

jor-el wrote:My guess would be finding one of those AR15 bayonet adaptors and ream it out to fit the shottie's barrel. Then attach a muzzle tube to make the 22mm OD you need to fit the bayonet ring.

All else fails, buy a Mossberg 590 with GI barrel.
That's not a bad idea, although it sounds like a lot of work, and I'm not 100% confident of my skills to make it a solid product. Last thing I want is my bayonet mount to snap off when it's all that's keeping a big-ass wild pig from goring me. (Unlikely, but better safe than sorry.) Thanks for the suggestions, though, I'll keep it in mind.
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Post by sharps54 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:44 pm

If I were going to mount a bayonet on a shotgun I would go with something a little more traditional, like the socket bayonet I have for my Martini-Henry! I have considered trying to rig up something with a Brown Bess socket bayonet but never got around to it. I would love to find a socket bayonet for my AR come to think of it. :D
As for practical use I think a big knife or maybe even a sabre would be more useful, I have read a number of accounts of how soldiers that actually fought hand to hand prefered to use the bayonets off the rifles, as swords, or more often in modern times using e-tools instead. Modern rifles and shotguns aren't made to handle the stresses of bayonet fighting like the Brown Bess was.

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Post by jptp0831 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:24 pm

Back in the day I carried a Mossberg 590. Some of the guys were issued the 870. Now as a civilian I have a 870. Have you ever gone through a bayonet course? It's hard enough with a M-16. A shotgun is unwieldy enough. Then add a bayonet?
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I'd still buy one if anyone knows where to get one. Just cause I never needed one before does not mean it's stupid.
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Post by Wesson357 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:42 pm

Here is a shotgun with a bayonet I have always found interesting

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Post by Jeriah » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:13 pm

Wesson357 wrote:Here is a shotgun with a bayonet I have always found interesting

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"Interesting" is indeed the word...very interesting. My first impression is of a shotgun trying very, very hard to be an M4. I wonder when this fad of sticking an M4-type 6-position telescoping stock on every gun out there will end...I can't wait 'til I see ATI offer a tele-stock for the Mosin-Nagant...

And those sights? I've never used a holographic sight, but I've played with them at gun shows, and while they seem effective...on a shotgun? I'm skeptical.

Nevertheless, very interesting. Thanks for the photo.
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Post by ais » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:34 pm

Jeriah wrote:
Wesson357 wrote:Here is a shotgun with a bayonet I have always found interesting

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"Interesting" is indeed the word...very interesting. My first impression is of a shotgun trying very, very hard to be an M4. I wonder when this fad of sticking an M4-type 6-position telescoping stock on every gun out there will end...I can't wait 'til I see ATI offer a tele-stock for the Mosin-Nagant...

And those sights? I've never used a holographic sight, but I've played with them at gun shows, and while they seem effective...on a shotgun? I'm skeptical.

Nevertheless, very interesting. Thanks for the photo.
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Post by Bald Chihuahua » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:40 pm

This shotgun is obviously a poser... First it hangs out with the M4, then it starts to do what the M4 does, and sooner or later it becomes the M4 but its like a fake.

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Post by timm667 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:51 am

heres an 870 i just picked up.
never seen this type of bayonet shotgun mount before.

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Post by aswrg7 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:11 am

You could go to a machine shop and have the bayonet lug made.

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Post by thorian » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:23 am

That looks like a ww1 vintage trench sweeper action, barrel, and bayonet with a new heat shield stock and pump. ( I have only seen that kind of mount in ww1 armement books)

Possiby some mall commando ruined a C&R to make that. ( that would be the only gripe I have)

However if it is a newer production then :D You should be able to find out when it was made by the serial # I for one am interested on the year of manufacture
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Post by Gunny » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:32 pm

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Post by will » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:40 pm

my mossy has one and, yes, i have shot trap with it on.

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Post by Gunny » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:48 pm

Damnit, that's $10 so far, I'll be broke before too long.

Will, I love you man but watching you and Kyle shoot that thing at trap was beautiful.

The day went something like this:

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Post by will » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:52 pm

:D

you forgot about the "mace launcher" and the tiny dog house on the front pistol grip for my bloodhounds.


the range lady sort of rolled her eyes when i pulled my shotgun out...
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Post by Gunny » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:09 pm

Hah, she did the same when I told her why she didn't have to explain how to shoot trap to me.

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Post by zombievt » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:30 pm

timm667 wrote:heres an 870 i just picked up.
never seen this type of bayonet shotgun mount before.

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That looks like the heat sheild and bayonet lug off a Winchester 97.

There are reproductions of the sheild floating around and Norinco is importing repo 97's but I don't know if they're available in the US.

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Post by Rus » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:54 pm

38PlusP wrote:Try this...

www.soopergenius.com
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Post by tommygun » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:41 pm

I'd rather use a Mossburg 8)
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Post by Gunny » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:16 am

I'd rather use a Mossburg
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Post by thorian » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:38 am

zombievt wrote:
timm667 wrote:heres an 870 i just picked up.
never seen this type of bayonet shotgun mount before.

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That looks like the heat sheild and bayonet lug off a Winchester 97.

There are reproductions of the sheild floating around and Norinco is importing repo 97's but I don't know if they're available in the US.

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And that is why Im thinking ww1 a repro ogf the model 12 maby ?

click here to see the winnie model 12
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