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Class 3 questions.

Post by Sheol151 » Tue May 19, 2009 11:14 am

I've read and read.
Please someone with experience explain to me.
I want to order a AOW from the internet. I have a Class 3 SOT in order.
But what i can't find is in regards to the $5 transfer tax. Who get it? How long do i wait for the stamp?

Is it as simple as ordering, paying my FFL for the transfer and picking it up? Or do i have to wait months and months?

Thanks guys.

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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Dave_M » Tue May 19, 2009 11:34 am

Sheol151 wrote:I've read and read.
Please someone with experience explain to me.
I want to order a AOW from the internet. I have a Class 3 SOT in order.
But what i can't find is in regards to the $5 transfer tax. Who get it? How long do i wait for the stamp?

Is it as simple as ordering, paying my FFL for the transfer and picking it up? Or do i have to wait months and months?

Thanks guys.
Your SOT has to have it in his hands. So, either the SOT orders it and you pay him, or you order it and it's sent to the SOT. Either way, the SOT has to have it before any paperwork is filled out.

Once the SOT has it in his possession, paperwork is filled out and sent to the BATFE-and-sometimes-Y along with your $5 and the waiting game begins.
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Trioxin » Tue May 19, 2009 10:35 pm

Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Dave_M » Wed May 20, 2009 1:40 am

Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
SMG as in, a full auto gun?

You have to be an SOT otherwise you're breaking federal law.

If you could just make a full-auto gun with $200 stamp, all of my AR's would be FA.
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Greg Focker » Wed May 20, 2009 1:44 am

DavePAL84 wrote:
Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
SMG as in, a full auto gun?

You have to be an SOT otherwise you're breaking federal law.

If you could just make a full-auto gun with $200 stamp, all of my AR's would be FA.
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Trebor » Wed May 20, 2009 2:41 am

Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
First, you need to build a time machine. Then go back before May of 1986. That's when the law changed so that no new machine guns could be built for private citizen ownership. Ever since then the only MG's that can be manufactured are those for the military, law enforcement, or "Dealer Samples" made by FFL licensed MG manufacturers to demonstrate for mil or LEO sales.

Once you get the time machine built, buy a bunch of Microsoft stock while your at it...
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Necrodamus » Wed May 20, 2009 5:59 am

Trebor wrote:
Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
First, you need to build a time machine. Then go back before May of 1986. That's when the law changed so that no new machine guns could be built for private citizen ownership. Ever since then the only MG's that can be manufactured are those for the military, law enforcement, or "Dealer Samples" made by FFL licensed MG manufacturers to demonstrate for mil or LEO sales.

Once you get the time machine built, buy a bunch of Microsoft stock while your at it...

Well if your taking this route dont stop in 1986, just go all the way back to before 1934. The selection wont be as great but then you could buy Thompsons rather cheap and NO TAX!

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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by prebans » Sat May 23, 2009 10:17 pm

Necrodamus wrote:
Trebor wrote:
Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
First, you need to build a time machine. Then go back before May of 1986. That's when the law changed so that no new machine guns could be built for private citizen ownership. Ever since then the only MG's that can be manufactured are those for the military, law enforcement, or "Dealer Samples" made by FFL licensed MG manufacturers to demonstrate for mil or LEO sales.

Once you get the time machine built, buy a bunch of Microsoft stock while your at it...

Well if your taking this route dont stop in 1986, just go all the way back to before 1934. The selection wont be as great but then you could buy Thompsons rather cheap and NO TAX!
Not really... $200.00 for a "deluxe" TSMG (only $175 for a standard one) back then was 3-4 months of salary for average folk.

$200.00 would get far more in terms of Maxims, Vickers, Lewis Guns, Chau Chats, 1917s, 1919s, M2 .50s, Marlin Potato Diggers, Gatling Guns, a St. Etienne...

...plus cheap stuff like Lugers, Broomhandle Mausers, Maxim silencers, Ithaca Auto & Burglars, H&R Handy Guns, Marbles Game Getters, a Knickerbocker or a Crescent Certified, etc.

...and sopwith camels.

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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Trebor » Sun May 24, 2009 12:46 am

prebans wrote:...and sopwith camels.

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Grab a handful of war trophy Fokker DVII's instead. It's a much more forgiving plane and will outperform the Camel in anything except a tight turn.

You might as well grab a pair of SE5A's as well. Then you can hook up with a pretty girl and go looking for her Dad who became a warlord in China. Just don't be disapointed when he turns out to be Wilford Brimley.
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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by Necrodamus » Sun May 24, 2009 6:58 am

prebans wrote:
Necrodamus wrote:
Trebor wrote:
Trioxin wrote:Speaking of class 3 questions, I was wondering...If I buy a Vector UZI and want to use the receiver to build an SMG kit, what kind of legal hoops would one have to jump through?
First, you need to build a time machine. Then go back before May of 1986. That's when the law changed so that no new machine guns could be built for private citizen ownership. Ever since then the only MG's that can be manufactured are those for the military, law enforcement, or "Dealer Samples" made by FFL licensed MG manufacturers to demonstrate for mil or LEO sales.

Once you get the time machine built, buy a bunch of Microsoft stock while your at it...

Well if your taking this route dont stop in 1986, just go all the way back to before 1934. The selection wont be as great but then you could buy Thompsons rather cheap and NO TAX!
Not really... $200.00 for a "deluxe" TSMG (only $175 for a standard one) back then was 3-4 months of salary for average folk.

$200.00 would get far more in terms of Maxims, Vickers, Lewis Guns, Chau Chats, 1917s, 1919s, M2 .50s, Marlin Potato Diggers, Gatling Guns, a St. Etienne...

...plus cheap stuff like Lugers, Broomhandle Mausers, Maxim silencers, Ithaca Auto & Burglars, H&R Handy Guns, Marbles Game Getters, a Knickerbocker or a Crescent Certified, etc.

...and sopwith camels.

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I was comparing the CURRENT cost of a title III Thompson to the $200, I believe you would find a significant difference. Besides if you invented a time machine you could buy all of it

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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by GhettoSniper » Sun May 24, 2009 8:42 am

Necrodamus wrote:
I was comparing the CURRENT cost of a title III Thompson to the $200, I believe you would find a significant difference. Besides if you invented a time machine you could buy all of it
Title III? Crap, I didnt know you could get stuff more funner than Title II !!

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Re: Class 3 questions.

Post by prebans » Sun May 24, 2009 10:43 am

Necrodamus wrote: I was comparing the CURRENT cost of a title III Thompson to the $200, I believe you would find a significant difference. Besides if you invented a time machine you could buy all of it
So am I! Do you know what original C&R Maxims, Vickers, Lewis Guns, Chau Chats, 1917s, 1919s, M2 .50s, Marlin Potato Diggers, Gatling Guns, St. Etiennes, etc., cost compared to a Thompson?

:lol:

Just giving you crap, man. :wink: Believe me, I'd be all over a trip to 1933 just to buy stuff at depression prices.

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