Best Beginner Gun

[BloodLust]

I'm not too familiar with the m6. Does it have 2 barrels at one tiime or do you have to switch the barrels? How can it fir both .22 and .410?

[Mugwug]

...Don't get a gun to "learn" with. Buy the gun you will use for the purpose it is ultimately intended. (For the purpose of this forum, P.A.W. survival)....

Making a good point there, your first gun need not be a beginners gun, everyone has different preferences when it comes to firearms. I recommend the SKS typically because its cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, can be resold fairly easily if you don't like it, and is a suitable for real-world use (I AM biased as I think the SKS is a terrific rifle).

You're going to find that there are guns you like and guns you dislike (and they're likely not going to be same guns that people here like and dislike), try as many as you can and choose for yourself.

[Iggy Hazard]

Get a good .22 rifle for a longarm, or a .410 shotgun is what I've heard.

Or an over-under combination gun for the best of both worlds. However, I'd recommend a 20-gauge over a .410-bore. There are also drillings (3-barrel) and vierlings (4-barrel), but these are high-end custom pieces that are always unreasonably expensive. The most common drilling configuration is two shotgun barrels (same gauge) over a rifle barrel. They can be configured in different ways, though, and there is such a thing as an all-shotgun drilling with a triangular barrel cluster (usually two-over-one from what I've seen). The best vierling configuration is over/under rifle combined with side-by-side shotgun. Usually, the shotgun barrels are the same gauge while the rifle barrels are two different calibers (one small, one large). But this is all trivial information since the price of these things negates their utility.

For a rifle, I'd recommend a lever-action. They're lots of fun. Unlike bolt-actions, they're ambidextrous. As for caliber, if you want something more substantial than a .22, .30-30 has ballistics comparible to 7.62x39mm. For a shotgun, I'd recommend a 12- or 20-gauge Remington 870, Mossberg 590, or Mossberg 500. If it's for defense, get one with an 18.5" or 20" barrel. With an 18.5" barrel, your highest capacity with an 870 will be 7 rounds (6+1, standard 2.75" or 5+1 3" Magnums). Defense Mossberg 500s come in two basic flavors: 6-shot w/18.5" barrel or 8-shot w/20" barrel. The shorter one handles the best and is less clumsy to lug around (especially in confined spaces). There are other specs on the 500, but these are the two most basic configurations that you should concern yourself with if you're lo0king for a combat shotgun for defense.

Then there's the Mossberg 590 -- my favorite of all standard-type fixed tube repeating shotguns. The two basic flavors are 6-shot w/18.5" barrel and 9-shot w/20" barrel. The 9-shot 590 is probably the ultimate tube-fed repeating shotgun you can buy because it already has a maxed-out magazine tube and a barrel that isn't too long. On a defense shotgun, the barrel should be no longer than 20". As a proud 590 owner, I can vouch for its awesometasticness.

16-gauge splits the difference between a 12 and a 20 but is kind of hard to find. The first shotgun I ever shot was a single-shot 16-gauge. The first shotgun I ever owned was a 12-gauge side-by-side. To break it down, I recommend a 20- or 12-gauge pump-action shotgun. As for rifles, I advise against semi-auto .22s -- this applies even more to pistols than rifles (but doesn't apply revolvers). They're just not reliable.

[Madmann135]

And in Chicago, not only are pistols illegal, any kind of firearm is. My friend's uncle was arrested for having a hunting rifle inside a case in his home, even though he had his license and all the paperwork.

Actually firearms (rifles) that are not regestered with the city within 10 days of purchase are illeagle...

See for yourself
http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/StateLaws.aspx?ST=IL

I plan to purchase a current model of the Bushmaster M17S Bullpup Rifle when I am able to buy a firearm.


I'm not an evil person and I believe that the Currupt mayor and his possy of what evers are driving Chicago to Hell in a hand basket.
these are the reasong why and their the trouth.


Corrupt mayor, government officials

strict firearm control laws (to strict for the state and therefore should be illeagle) that put firearms into the hands of those that don't need them... namely criminals, gangbangers, etc.

highest taxes in the USA (9%-10% shopping tax and lets not talk about property tax).

All firearms HAVE to be regestered by the city, (making it easier for the wrong people to find guns easily and steal them).

Highest homoside rate in the US, (hense the little nick name "murder capitol")



now who do we have to blame for this... the mayor and his possy. I hope that they get eaten alive by rabid jackals. (I'm really, REALLY not a nice guy)