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delisle carbine?

Postby SMERSH » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:51 pm

while i was looking through some websites i came across an article on the delisle carbine. wich is a british bolt action carbine with a massive suppressor, and it fires a .46 acp round from a 1911 magazine. its almost silent and it is dead accurate up to 100 meters. is it just me or does this seem like a dream for sniping zombies?

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Postby ZETFleader » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:37 pm

If you want a decent military type weapon the does a pinch better just get a M1 Carbine.
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Postby Nightside_Eclipse » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:53 pm

ZETFleader wrote:If you want a decent military type weapon the does a pinch better just get a M1 Carbine.



But the suppressor man!! The suppressor!!!



Plus it's chambered in .45acp a round that would be much easier to find than ammo for the M1 (forgot which round it fires :oops: )
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Postby SMERSH » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:58 pm

Nightside_Eclipse wrote:
Plus it's chambered in .45acp a round that would be much easier to find than ammo for the M1 (forgot which round it fires :oops: )


7.62x33mm
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Postby ZETFleader » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:02 pm

.30 carbine but the .45 is easier to find. Of course you can get a screw on silencer bottle for the m1. But pistol rounds are easier to silence cause they can be sub-sonic rounds.
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Postby ZETFleader » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:04 pm

The 7.62x33 kurz. is the german mp-44 submachine gun round
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Postby SMERSH » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:13 pm

close, the mp-44 fires a 7.92x33 bullet, and the m1 carbine fires a 7.62x33 bullet. the kurtz round is more like the soviet 7.62x39 round, where the .30 M1 round is more like cowboy ammo.
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Postby SMERSH » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:59 pm

one neat thing about it is that it uses 1911 mags, wich are not that hard to find
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Postby Nightside_Eclipse » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:22 am

I thought it was .30 carbine.
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Postby SMERSH » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:26 am

the delsile carbine fires a .45 acp round

the M1 carbine fires a .30 caliber round, wich in metric is 7.62x33mm
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Postby Methos » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:38 am

Despite the fact that it looks a little bit bulky, it looks decent.
Do they make them anymore? Might have trouble with older models I would think.
Hell, they made M1's well into the mid 80's I believe.
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Postby Gundown » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:17 am

If it has an integral suppressor wouldn't it require a class 3 license to own? I know the Ruger 10/22 that has a built in suppressor does.
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Postby SMERSH » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:34 am

valkyrie arms makes them to the exact specs of the WWII design, for roughly $1800 new. plus two photo IDs, two sets of finger prints, and a 5 month waiting period

raptorman should know all the details on getting a suppresed weapon, being that he just bought a MP5SD5

valkyrie arms is also in pre-production of the delisle 2000 and the delisle sporter carbine. the delisle 2000 is basically built "for your inner paranoid gun nut", by taking the orignal delisle design and adding a scope rail, folding stock, removable barrel (in case you need to carry it around in a breif case), and a polymer grip.

the delisle sporter carbine, is just a delisle carbine minus the suppressor.
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Postby ZETFleader » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:13 am

I'd still get a M1 carbine.
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Postby Mugwug » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:03 am

SMERSH Nice, haven't heard anyone refer to that in a while. Certainly didn't know anyone was producing them! Except for the cost and the supressor (big no-no up here) I'd love to have one of these!

ZETF Leader is there some reason for your attachment to the M1 Carbine? Aside from Max Brooks endorsement I'd never really considered it a suitable PAW / SHTF rifle, perhaps thats just cause up here the ammunition isn't that common and the rifle is not as popular as others.

I'm curious why you'd prefer it over the SKS (budget rifle numero uno) or a more modern gas gun?
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Postby jamoni » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:41 pm

Any reason you couldn't get one that wasn't suppressed? I bet the bolt action and long barrel would add a lot of range and accuracy to the .45 round.
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Postby SMERSH » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:05 pm

Jamoni wrote:Any reason you couldn't get one that wasn't suppressed? I bet the bolt action and long barrel would add a lot of range and accuracy to the .45 round.


there is a dummy suppressor version and a non suppressor one also. that have the exact same mechanics

http://www.valkyriearms.com/products.htm
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Postby jakemuay » Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:37 pm

I would absolutely love to get my hands on one of these. Light, super reliable manual action, and with subsonic rounds damn near total silence. Too bad bout the price and laws and such.

ZETF Leader, I owned an M1 Carbine a few years back. Jammed like hendrix at woodstock. It was very picky about ammo and even more so about magazines. Id take a bolt action Remington or the delsile over it any day.
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Postby SMERSH » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:52 pm

how hard would it be to mount a scope in the delisle carbine. nothing big, like a 4x red dot
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Postby Necro99 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:18 pm

Those Rifles are probably some of THE hardest rifles to find anywhere.
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Postby SMERSH » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:27 pm

the M1 carbine or the delisle?
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Postby Mr_Fubar » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:56 pm

Czech Mauser and get a Rhineland arms conversion kit to turn it into .45 and it still takes 1911 mags...
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Postby Necro99 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:28 pm

SMERSH wrote:the M1 carbine or the delisle?

Delisle. Most where destroyed when their potential as assasination weapons was realized.
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Postby jamoni » Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:28 pm

"REALIZED"? That's like saying we built a car then "realized" it's potential as transportation. These guns were DESIGNED for assasination. Except, I guess it's only assasination if it's an "important" person, and not a sentry or dock worker.
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