Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by boskone » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:37 pm

woodsghost wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:09 pm
I've read that primers have the potential to contain some lead. I don't know if it's true, but she does not help with de-priming either and I clean up before she can help with the other steps.
They--at least some--use lead styphnate as a priming compound.

It's one reason pregnant women are recommended to stay away from shooting ranges. I've actually known people who shot a lot (competitive shooters, mostly) who've tested with concerning levels of lead.
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Speaking of lead exposure in kids, I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell my doctors in SE Texas figured out I had high levels of lead in my system when I was a kid.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact I lived maybe less than two miles from one of the big oil refineries in the city and could've been exposed to all sorts of nastiness.

Probably explains why I was sick a lot back then and had trouble learning in school.

Ok, so that last one may have been simply because I wasn't exactly all that bright as a kid, but the whole being sick a lot thing might have something to do with the close proximity to the oil refinery.
Lead causes cognitive issues. Removing lead from gasoline is linked to reduction in crime rates for that reason.

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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by boskone » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:54 pm

I'm (still) kinda looking to put fixed stocks on my ARs. For beard-friendliness reasons.

I'm tempted by the KP15, as it wouldn't actually be much if any more than the parts...however, then I'd have a spare lower running around, which I'd feel compelled to turn into another gun. :roll:

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Oh, I just remembered, dad's maybe interested in an AR. Hrm...

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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:33 pm

Part of me kind of wants to build a Vietnam era style AR.

I've had that idea in my head for quite awhile, but I've always put it on the back burner because other things grab my attention and I forget about it.

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Post by boskone » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:02 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:33 pm
Part of me kind of wants to build a Vietnam era style AR.

I've had that idea in my head for quite awhile, but I've always put it on the back burner because other things grab my attention and I forget about it.
There are aspects of that style I don't care for (esp. as I prefer free-float barrels), but I'm kinda thinking that a fixed stock with a folding adapter would be more useful to me than a collapsible stock.

A collapsible stock probably makes sense for someone in body armor, and maybe for someone in like a thick coat, but mine are always fully-extended anyway except for transport.

It's just too bad that so far as I've found the Law folding adapters the only decent one on the market, and it's $200+.

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:55 pm

boskone wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:02 pm
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:33 pm
Part of me kind of wants to build a Vietnam era style AR.

I've had that idea in my head for quite awhile, but I've always put it on the back burner because other things grab my attention and I forget about it.
There are aspects of that style I don't care for (esp. as I prefer free-float barrels), but I'm kinda thinking that a fixed stock with a folding adapter would be more useful to me than a collapsible stock.

A collapsible stock probably makes sense for someone in body armor, and maybe for someone in like a thick coat, but mine are always fully-extended anyway except for transport.

It's just too bad that so far as I've found the Law folding adapters the only decent one on the market, and it's $200+.
Is the Law folding adapter made by Sylvan Arms or am I thinking of another company ?

As for the Vietnam era type AR, I blame the idea coming back in my head on the fact I got bored a couple days ago and watched the tail end of the first Rambo movie (First Blood, I think ?).

I saw Brian Dennehy grab one to go confront Rambo and I thought "I kind of want one of those."

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Post by RickOShea » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:40 am

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:33 pm
Part of me kind of wants to build a Vietnam era style AR.

I've had that idea in my head for quite awhile, but I've always put it on the back burner because other things grab my attention and I forget about it.
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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by emclean » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:41 am

boskone wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:54 pm
I'm tempted by the KP15, as it wouldn't actually be much if any more than the parts...however, then I'd have a spare lower running around, which I'd feel compelled to turn into another gun. :roll:
just be aware that there will be long lead times for the KP15 lowers. they have been pre-selling them since April, and are just now shipping. 1 of them that I ordered was delivered to my LGS Saturday, still waiting on the others
[well April is when I ordered mine, not sure how much before I ordered that they were taking orders.]

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Post by PistolPete » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:34 am

emclean wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:41 am
just be aware that there will be long lead times for the KP15 lowers. they have been pre-selling them since April, and are just now shipping. 1 of them that I ordered was delivered to my LGS Saturday, still waiting on the others
[well April is when I ordered mine, not sure how much before I ordered that they were taking orders.]
I pre-ordered one as well months back and it's been crickets. No idea when mine is going to ship.

As far as retro rifles, I put together an A1-ish clone last year. Something about those triangle handguards is just sexy. I don't shoot it often, but it's fun to use and instantly recognizable. As well, the triangle handguard shoots nice off a flat surface and the 20" barrel makes for a nice sight radius and nice velocity.
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:04 pm

I'm leaning towards making a 20 inch barrelled rifle instead of a carbine like Rick posted. Mostly because I already own a 16 inch barrelled AR and I just like the looks of the retro rifles.

I know Brownells made one in the same style as what I saw on "First Blood", but they discontinued it awhile back.

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Post by RickOShea » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:34 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:04 pm
I'm leaning towards making a 20 inch barrelled rifle instead of a carbine like Rick posted. Mostly because I already own a 16 inch barrelled AR and I just like the looks of the retro rifles.

I know Brownells made one in the same style as what I saw on "First Blood", but they discontinued it awhile back.
That one in First Blood looks like my first AR, a Colt SP1 (R6000). I bought it in '92 and it was in like-new condition, but the serial number dates it as a 1970 production gun. I think Colt made this model up until around '82.

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Post by RoneKiln » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:00 pm

I really want to build out an AR with wood furniture and a side charger upper without the gas block so it functions as a straight bolt action.

Given the incredible cost of wood furniture and the very limited options available in wood, I expect I'll have to learn how to make it myself. I'm confident in being able to make the forgrip I want. It's the stock and pistol grip I have doubts of. I think I've figured out in theory how to make a thumbhole stock work with two pieces that connect. I'm not confident in being able to figure out how to physically craft it accurately enough the pieces fit together properly.
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Post by boskone » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:15 pm

Try making it out of something less demanding to get the shape down, perhaps? Like laminate a bunch of foamboard or something and get your shape down with woodworking tools, then step up to cheap lumber, then whatever you want for the actual stock.

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Post by RoneKiln » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:48 pm

Thanks Boskone, that's a great idea on the foam board. I'll remember that when I get around to trying it.

Basically, I'll be trying to get a more classic wood "hunting rifle" look. Partly I want to push my wood working skills and see if it's possible. Partly I think it would look beautiful and unique (functional art). And last, I delight in messing with certain people's preconceptions of firearms (art can be about challenging preconceptions right?). :lol:
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Post by PistolPete » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:54 am

Pro tip: If you're looking to buy bulk brass for reloading, a 5 gallon bucket holds about 3,000 pieces of 223 brass.
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Post by boskone » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:19 pm

PistolPete wrote:
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Pro tip: If you're looking to buy bulk brass for reloading, a 5 gallon bucket holds about 3,000 pieces of 223 brass.
Where do you find powder and primers these days? :|

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boskone wrote:
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Where do you find powder and primers these days? :|
In my reloading room. I've been through a couple of these panics so I tend to store consumables, like primers and toilet paper.

Powder is still easy to find online, but paying a hazmat fee for a single pound is a pain. Hodgdon allows you to order directly from them, even. Primers on the other hand have been gone for 6 months.
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:54 pm

How are y'all cleaning your gun cleaning mops (assuming you guys use them) and with what ?

I was going through my garage yesterday and I found one of my old cleaning kits and a lot of the stuff is still usable, but some of the mops are kind of nasty. I was thinking of stuffing them in a mesh bag and bleaching the hell out of them, but I started to wonder if there was anything specific to these things that others used.

Or do y'all just toss them when they get too dirty rather than attempt to clean them ?

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12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
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How are y'all cleaning your gun cleaning mops (assuming you guys use them) and with what ?

I was going through my garage yesterday and I found one of my old cleaning kits and a lot of the stuff is still usable, but some of the mops are kind of nasty. I was thinking of stuffing them in a mesh bag and bleaching the hell out of them, but I started to wonder if there was anything specific to these things that others used.

Or do y'all just toss them when they get too dirty rather than attempt to clean them ?
Are you talking about a shop tag? Toss them. Get a new bag at Walmart or Harbor Freight or Autozone or some similar.
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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:49 pm

woodsghost wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:27 pm
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:54 pm
How are y'all cleaning your gun cleaning mops (assuming you guys use them) and with what ?

I was going through my garage yesterday and I found one of my old cleaning kits and a lot of the stuff is still usable, but some of the mops are kind of nasty. I was thinking of stuffing them in a mesh bag and bleaching the hell out of them, but I started to wonder if there was anything specific to these things that others used.

Or do y'all just toss them when they get too dirty rather than attempt to clean them ?
Are you talking about a shop tag? Toss them. Get a new bag at Walmart or Harbor Freight or Autozone or some similar.
No, I'm talking about those little screw in mop (not sure what they're actually called. I've always just called them mops.)things you see in those multi caliber cleaning kits Walmart and others sell.

I guess they're called brushes (the cotton ones, not the copper or bronze ones), but I've always called them mops.

And since they're too far gone to save, I'll just toss them. I can always grab some from Midway or Walmart for a buck or two if I need more.

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:25 pm

Since we've solved my dilemma with what to do with dirty gun brushes, I've got another question.

On Remington shotgun barrels, what's with the star next to the shell size rollmark ?

Does that denote choke size, if any, or does that mean it's safe to shoot steel shot through it ?

I just noticed that rollmark today and I've never thought to see what it meant.

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Post by Langenator » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:30 pm

Random observation: I was in my local Academy today. Not there fun anything gun related, but I wandered over to that part of the store anyway, just to see.

The only handgun ammo on the shelves was 10 or so boxes of .500 S&W Magnum. No rifle ammo on the shelves at all. The only shotgun ammo was birdshot.

They did have some PMags in stock. Quite a few 10 rnd AR10 mags, which I have actually never seen in the wild before.
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Re: Firearms CHAT: [2020 - Year of the Squib]

Post by boskone » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:57 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:25 pm
Since we've solved my dilemma with what to do with dirty gun brushes, I've got another question.

On Remington shotgun barrels, what's with the star next to the shell size rollmark ?

Does that denote choke size, if any, or does that mean it's safe to shoot steel shot through it ?

I just noticed that rollmark today and I've never thought to see what it meant.
It has something to do with the chamber. I can't remember what, though, sorry.

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