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Re: Firearms Chat 5: #pewpewlife

Post by woodsghost » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:28 pm

Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
Streamlight Plolytac. $30-$50.

Mounting hardware, can be $10 total.

I can post links when I'm a a computer.

If a 5.56 or similar, the Plolytac will be great. If 7.62x51, it will work, but maybe not a 10 year investment. It works good on my 12 ga for the last 250 rnds. Gonna keep testing till it dies.
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Post by Dogan » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:11 pm

woodsghost wrote:
Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
Streamlight Plolytac. $30-$50.

Mounting hardware, can be $10 total.

I can post links when I'm a a computer.

If a 5.56 or similar, the Plolytac will be great. If 7.62x51, it will work, but maybe not a 10 year investment. It works good on my 12 ga for the last 250 rnds. Gonna keep testing till it dies.
Polytac can run on 18650 or 123a only?

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Post by NT2C » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:58 pm

Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
I put one of these on my .22 mag bolt action. No regrets. It's actually a pretty nice light and has stood up to getting banged around in the back of my pickup.

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Post by woodsghost » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:18 pm

Dogan wrote:
woodsghost wrote:
Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
Streamlight Plolytac. $30-$50.

Mounting hardware, can be $10 total.

I can post links when I'm a a computer.

If a 5.56 or similar, the Plolytac will be great. If 7.62x51, it will work, but maybe not a 10 year investment. It works good on my 12 ga for the last 250 rnds. Gonna keep testing till it dies.
Polytac can run on 18650 or 123a only?

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This one uses CR123a batteries. Mine might use CR123s. I should check that....

http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88850 ... B001S0IN46

But I think mine advertises 1.5 hours on the brightest setting, and I only uses it for momentary flashes here and there when I do exercises in the apartment. So I"m not that worried about running the battery down. I should still get a spare though.
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Post by MPMalloy » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:23 pm

woodsghost wrote:
Dogan wrote:
woodsghost wrote:
Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
Streamlight Plolytac. $30-$50.

Mounting hardware, can be $10 total.

I can post links when I'm a a computer.

If a 5.56 or similar, the Plolytac will be great. If 7.62x51, it will work, but maybe not a 10 year investment. It works good on my 12 ga for the last 250 rnds. Gonna keep testing till it dies.
Polytac can run on 18650 or 123a only?

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This one uses CR123a batteries. Mine might use CR123s. I should check that....

http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88850 ... B001S0IN46

But I think mine advertises 1.5 hours on the brightest setting, and I only uses it for momentary flashes here and there when I do exercises in the apartment. So I"m not that worried about running the battery down. I should still get a spare though.
*rechargable* CR123a.... :)

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Post by RickOShea » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:06 pm

MPMalloy wrote:
Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Streamlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
I'm not familiar with the lights you mention, but I have a Streamlight TLR-6 on my Glock 26 & it has never let me down.
A TLR-6....on a rifle?
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Post by MPMalloy » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:17 pm

RickOShea wrote:
MPMalloy wrote:
Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Streamlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
I'm not familiar with the lights you mention, but I have a Streamlight TLR-6 on my Glock 26 & it has never let me down.
A TLR-6....on a rifle?
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:13 pm

Dogan wrote:Problem: Broke college student need rifle light, prefer 18650 and sub $150.

Solution: Armytek? PFlexPro? Stremlight HL-X or 2L-X? Already stock 18650's.
They don't take 18650s, but I've got a pair of Bushnell Pro 150L (I think they're the 150 lumen ones. Might be the 200 lumen ones, I'm not sure) lights my AKs. I like them and they're like 30 bucks at Walmart.

I did have a Streamlight Poly Tac on my AKs before I got the Bushnell lights, so I'd probably go with Streamlight again if I were in the same boat.

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Post by woodsghost » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:13 pm

Well since I had a second recoil pad on my shotgun to add some LOP, I decided to try the 3 inch mags again. While they were more manageable and comfortable, they still jumped a bit. To the tune of "Lets send a piece of picitinny into WG's thumb and take a bunch off." So I have a flap of skin about half the size of a dime hanging off. That sucked. It would not stop bleeding either till I found napkins and duct tape in the car. I thought I had a FAK in there, but apparently not. I've fixed that now.

When I got home my wife put lavender essential oil on there, and that helped quite a bit with the bleeding. She wanted me to maybe get stitches, but I"ll wait and let it heal. If it gets infected I"ll visit the doc, otherwise this is a chance to learn more medical stuff. I think it was pretty clean though. That much blood had to have washed out any foreign material.

But seriously, when it happened I let out a loud "not again!" using mostly four letter words. It is not getting injured that bothers me. It is recovery time. And "memories" that might persist and act up occasionally.

Also, again, nothing but 2 3/4 shells for me ever again. Not even if I should live to one hundred or one hundred and ten.

I would not hesitate to put 3 inchers through a heavier gun. But for HD, it is solely the smaller rounds.

I also got a 5 rounder HD gun thinking "why would I ever need more?" My next HD gun will have more capacity. Just what I"ve concluded.

I also found out Winchester's segmented slugs are rather amazing. Winchester and Federal are my top brands for shotgun HD rounds. Lots of other companies make good stuff, but those two are tops.


[EDIT] Also, just my general observation, but I suspect tritium sights on shotguns are not really necessary unless one lives in a state where one intends to do night hunting but is not allowed to use a red dot sight. If using a shotgun for HD, one will have a light, and this light will illuminate a Big Dot sight, though not necessarily a bead. I do believe the Big Dot type sights are VERY necessary on shotguns.

I"ll try to get some more practice in and maybe some night hunting this winter. If I still hold to these opinions after all that I'll share again.

On the other hand, I might use my rifle for night coyotes. :twisted: We will see.
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Post by NT2C » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:26 pm

Just my thoughts on the shotty for HD, mine was an 8 round Mossberg, just a bead front. At typical HD type ranges if you can't hit your target with just a bead sight you might as well just use the thing as a club.

In other news: Spent the day out at a friend's place and shot the shit out of a small patch of soybeans that was behind our targets. 200 rounds of 230 grain +P .45 ACP; 300 rounds of 124 grain +P 9mm; 100 rounds of 124 grain 9mm; 50 rounds of .40 cal (didn't get more info than that on the load); and a dozen or two rounds of 158 grain .38 cal. tends to tear up the beans a bit. We'll be paying for a bushel or two or three I think.

(Buddy rents a double wide that sits in the middle of the fields from the guy who owns them.)
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KJ4VOV wrote:Just my thoughts on the shotty for HD, mine was an 8 round Mossberg, just a bead front. At typical HD type ranges if you can't hit your target with just a bead sight you might as well just use the thing as a club.

In other news: Spent the day out at a friend's place and shot the shit out of a small patch of soybeans that was behind our targets. 200 rounds of 230 grain +P .45 ACP; 300 rounds of 124 grain +P 9mm; 100 rounds of 124 grain 9mm; 50 rounds of .40 cal (didn't get more info than that on the load); and a dozen or two rounds of 158 grain .38 cal. tends to tear up the beans a bit. We'll be paying for a bushel or two or three I think.

(Buddy rents a double wide that sits in the middle of the fields from the guy who owns them.)
What's a bushel of soybeans go for these days ?

Only thing I know is cotton because some of my cousins work the cotton fields and even the low grade stuff goes for about 3 to 4 grand. Higher grade stuff goes for a lot more.

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Post by NT2C » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 am

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
KJ4VOV wrote:Just my thoughts on the shotty for HD, mine was an 8 round Mossberg, just a bead front. At typical HD type ranges if you can't hit your target with just a bead sight you might as well just use the thing as a club.

In other news: Spent the day out at a friend's place and shot the shit out of a small patch of soybeans that was behind our targets. 200 rounds of 230 grain +P .45 ACP; 300 rounds of 124 grain +P 9mm; 100 rounds of 124 grain 9mm; 50 rounds of .40 cal (didn't get more info than that on the load); and a dozen or two rounds of 158 grain .38 cal. tends to tear up the beans a bit. We'll be paying for a bushel or two or three I think.

(Buddy rents a double wide that sits in the middle of the fields from the guy who owns them.)
What's a bushel of soybeans go for these days ?

Only thing I know is cotton because some of my cousins work the cotton fields and even the low grade stuff goes for about 3 to 4 grand. Higher grade stuff goes for a lot more.
About 5 bucks a bushel is what my buddy says.
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Post by RickOShea » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:55 am

woodsghost wrote:Also, just my general observation, but I suspect tritium sights on shotguns are not really necessary unless one lives in a state where one intends to do night hunting but is not allowed to use a red dot sight. If using a shotgun for HD, one will have a light, and this light will illuminate a Big Dot sight, though not necessarily a bead. I do believe the Big Dot type sights are VERY necessary on shotguns.
Right now I have an XS big dot barrel band on the 930. The 870 currently has a green fiber optic front sight. My old "heavy metal" 870 and Mossy .410 also have F/O front beads.
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KJ4VOV wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
KJ4VOV wrote:Just my thoughts on the shotty for HD, mine was an 8 round Mossberg, just a bead front. At typical HD type ranges if you can't hit your target with just a bead sight you might as well just use the thing as a club.

In other news: Spent the day out at a friend's place and shot the shit out of a small patch of soybeans that was behind our targets. 200 rounds of 230 grain +P .45 ACP; 300 rounds of 124 grain +P 9mm; 100 rounds of 124 grain 9mm; 50 rounds of .40 cal (didn't get more info than that on the load); and a dozen or two rounds of 158 grain .38 cal. tends to tear up the beans a bit. We'll be paying for a bushel or two or three I think.

(Buddy rents a double wide that sits in the middle of the fields from the guy who owns them.)
What's a bushel of soybeans go for these days ?

Only thing I know is cotton because some of my cousins work the cotton fields and even the low grade stuff goes for about 3 to 4 grand. Higher grade stuff goes for a lot more.
About 5 bucks a bushel is what my buddy says.
So y'all would be out about 15 bucks or so ?

In other news, I was told the other day that the new Mossberg Shockwave shorty shotgun was illegal in Texas for a little while. According to some, it's now legal in my state, but it seems no one can give me a straight answer on if that's true or not.

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Post by Barr » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:02 pm

Mossberg Shockwave became legal in Texas on Sept 1.

https://blog.uslawshield.com/tag/mossberg-shockwave/

https://openstates.org/tx/bills/85/HB1819/

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Barr wrote:Mossberg Shockwave became legal in Texas on Sept 1.

https://blog.uslawshield.com/tag/mossberg-shockwave/

https://openstates.org/tx/bills/85/HB1819/

These should have the pertinent info for you.
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RickOShea wrote:
woodsghost wrote:Also, just my general observation, but I suspect tritium sights on shotguns are not really necessary unless one lives in a state where one intends to do night hunting but is not allowed to use a red dot sight. If using a shotgun for HD, one will have a light, and this light will illuminate a Big Dot sight, though not necessarily a bead. I do believe the Big Dot type sights are VERY necessary on shotguns.
Right now I have an XS big dot barrel band on the 930. The 870 currently has a green fiber optic front sight. My old "heavy metal" 870 and Mossy .410 also have F/O front beads.
I'm using the XS Big Dot too, with tritium. Having shot targets at night, I don't think the tritium was super useful. Especially when considering I'll be illuminating the target with a light. But if no light is used, and the states I have hunted in don't allow lights, then that tritium makes sense. Otherwise, tritium would maybe make sense in a night time PAW Patrol (had to say it). In a disaster like Harvy I would not shoot anything without a light. But then, honestly, I'd probably only shoot pigs, rats, and other vermin.

Just where I'm at for the time being.

As for bead sights, I like them. The Big Dot is just a bigger bead. My hits and speed really improved with the Big Dot. But a Red Dot would be better.
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woodsghost wrote:As for bead sights, I like them. The Big Dot is just a bigger bead. My hits and speed really improved with the Big Dot. But a Red Dot would be better.
LOL. Well, I have a Fastfire w/ an ADM QD mount on the 870, and an RMR w/ a LaRue QD mount on the 930. :awesome:
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Post by woodsghost » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:27 pm

RickOShea wrote:
woodsghost wrote:As for bead sights, I like them. The Big Dot is just a bigger bead. My hits and speed really improved with the Big Dot. But a Red Dot would be better.
LOL. Well, I have a Fastfire w/ an ADM QD mount on the 870, and an RMR w/ a LaRue QD mount on the 930. :awesome:
Well color me jealous! Lol I don't have a red dot on there yet. Only recently got my first for my rifle.
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Post by RickOShea » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:18 pm

woodsghost wrote:
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woodsghost wrote:As for bead sights, I like them. The Big Dot is just a bigger bead. My hits and speed really improved with the Big Dot. But a Red Dot would be better.
LOL. Well, I have a Fastfire w/ an ADM QD mount on the 870, and an RMR w/ a LaRue QD mount on the 930. :awesome:
Well color me jealous! Lol I don't have a red dot on there yet. Only recently got my first for my rifle.
The Burris Fastfire 3 isn't bad. Unlike the Fastfire 2, you can change the battery without having to remove the mount....bad thing is, it uses a CR1632 battery, instead of the CR2032 like the Fastfire 2 (and just about every other micro/mini red dot).

As for the RMR, normally I wouldn't put a $500 red dot on a shottie. I originally got it to piggy-back on an ACOG, but ended-up not liking that set-up. So it was just sitting around, needing a home.
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According to a document entitled, “USAF Authorized Small Arms and Light Weapons (SA/LW) Accessories (as of 28 July 17)”, the US Air Force has followed USSOCOM and the Marine Corps’ lead and adopted the 30rd Magpul GEN M3 PMAG in both Black and Tan. Specifically, they are authorized for use with the M4/M4A1 Carbine, GUU-5P (sic) Carbine, and M249 Automatic Rifle (sic).
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Post by Halfapint » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:13 pm

YAY! Just got the call, can go pick up my little LCP380! Sad part, the LGS has STUPID hours, and I wont be able to get it until Monday :(
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Halfapint wrote:YAY! Just got the call, can go pick up my little LCP380! Sad part, the LGS has STUPID hours, and I wont be able to get it until Monday :(
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