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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by MacAttack » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:40 am

phydaux wrote:Since we're busting up on The Walking Dead, first five minutes of Season 1, Episode 1 - The cops are at a baracade, and Rick tells the new guy that his gun, CLEARLY a Glock 17, won't be of much use with the safety on. The rookie nods and then mimes flicking off the external safety of a handgun that has no external safety.


I think Rick was joking with him.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by ashwednesday » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:58 am

phydaux wrote:Since we're busting up on The Walking Dead, first five minutes of Season 1, Episode 1 - The cops are at a baracade, and Rick tells the new guy that his gun, CLEARLY a Glock 17, won't be of much use with the safety on. The rookie nods and then mimes flicking off the external safety of a handgun that has no external safety.
I like Robert Crais's writing a lot, but his novel Hostage (later the movie with Bruce Willis) starts with a convenience store robbery during which the Korean store keeper can't get his Glock into action because of the safety. [emoji16]

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by ashwednesday » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:03 pm

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Langenator wrote:Worse than that, I've seen multiple instances of actors thumbing the hammer (or the sound coming from off screen) on Glocks.
Yeah, I've seen that too.

I can't name the movies for the life of me, but they're out there.

Another one I hate is the "Guy gets shot with random gun and gets sent flying back ten feet" style of physics most Hollywood movies have. A good example of bad gun physics is Bruce Willis' "Last Man Standing" film from the 90's.
This. In every Tarantino / Robert Rodriguez movie, they fly through the air. It's ridiculous.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by ashwednesday » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:09 pm

The movie Shoot Em Up. Every scene is packed to the gills with factual and physical inaccuracies. The movie parodies itself, glorifying gun violence while having a savagely anti-gun political message.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:26 pm

ashwednesday wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Langenator wrote:Worse than that, I've seen multiple instances of actors thumbing the hammer (or the sound coming from off screen) on Glocks.
Yeah, I've seen that too.

I can't name the movies for the life of me, but they're out there.

Another one I hate is the "Guy gets shot with random gun and gets sent flying back ten feet" style of physics most Hollywood movies have. A good example of bad gun physics is Bruce Willis' "Last Man Standing" film from the 90's.
This. In every Tarantino / Robert Rodriguez movie, they fly through the air. It's ridiculous.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by DarkAxel » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:41 pm

Here's one that really made me say "What the actual fuck?":

In the Criminal Minds episode "Identity", there comes a part where one of the agents picks up an empty case and says "7.62, an assault rifle round", and if that wasn't bad enough, when the episode actually shows the bad guy's weapon, it is a 5.56 AR. :x
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by ultra magnus » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:48 am

MacAttack wrote:
phydaux wrote:Since we're busting up on The Walking Dead, first five minutes of Season 1, Episode 1 - The cops are at a baracade, and Rick tells the new guy that his gun, CLEARLY a Glock 17, won't be of much use with the safety on. The rookie nods and then mimes flicking off the external safety of a handgun that has no external safety.


I think Rick was joking with him.

I don't think the scene was written as such, but it is a lot more fun if its Rick screwing with the new guy.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by DarkAxel » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:04 pm

Something else that always puzzled me was how in the hell those guys on ST:TNG aimed those phasers. They don't have sights at all on them, and half the time they are showed being fired from the hip.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by flybynight » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:29 pm

Just watched Jurassic world and Chris Pratts magical Marlin Guide gun that shoots semi auto.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by JeeperCreeper » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:50 pm

The first episode of this season of TWD (the black and white one) had Rick decock the hammer on a Glock to symbolize he was no longer gonna blast a dude in the face with it.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by MacAttack » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:40 am

In TWD

Glen is facing buthead on the dumpster.
Buthead shoots himself in the side of the head but Glen gets sprayed just on the right side of his head. While still facing him. At least two feet away.

You would think at most he would get a full face on shot instead of just an ear full.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Halfapint » Mon May 30, 2016 8:40 pm

Saw an advert for "Turn" on AMC. They showed a flint look or something of the sort,,and when he cocked the hammer back..... it was the sound of a bolt action being charged. I could stop laughing.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Mon May 30, 2016 9:49 pm

flybynight wrote:Just watched Jurassic world and Chris Pratts magical Marlin Guide gun that shoots semi auto.
That reminds me of something.

I was watching "The Expendables" the other day and I noticed that Sylvester Stallone had a pair of full auto 1911s. :lol:

Either his character was possessed by Jerry Miculek or Bob Munden at the time or someone in the editing booth goofed big time.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by mattnall » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:29 pm

ShooterMike wrote:- Rick sticks out his beautifully pristine Python, supposedly aiming it at someone/thing, and it's obvious that he's actually pointing it at the ground and can't see either frickin' sight.
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While trying to see if there were actually bullets in Ricks gun in the above pic I found many pics of Rick shooting and in nearly all of them he holds his gun like this.


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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:07 pm

Not sure if anyone else said this but....

Where the hell does all the gasoline come from in TWD?
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by majorhavoc » Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:44 pm

Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Not sure if anyone else said this but....

Where the hell does all the gasoline come from in TWD?
Try playing the otherwise excellent videogame The Last of Us. A significant plot point involves the two main characters driving an old pickup halfway across the country. Using 20-year old gasoline siphoned from abandoned cars along the way.

Maybe in the near future all gas will be treated with a magical fuel stabilizer that never ever goes bad. :ooh:

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:21 pm

majorhavoc wrote: Maybe in the near future all gas will be treated with a magical fuel stabilizer that never ever goes bad. :ooh:
We can hope! I'm looking for this innovation! :)
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:32 pm

DarkAxel wrote:Here's one that really made me say "What the actual fuck?":

In the Criminal Minds episode "Identity", there comes a part where one of the agents picks up an empty case and says "7.62, an assault rifle round", and if that wasn't bad enough, when the episode actually shows the bad guy's weapon, it is a 5.56 AR. :x
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In one episode they even implied that anyone who home schools their child is a pedophile!

But I'll play devil's advocate here. I have not seen that episode and I don't know the exact dialogue.

7.62 x 39 is an 'assault rifle' round. However we all know that it is technically classified as an intermediate cartridge.

And that mainstream media calls anything that isn't a handgun an assault rifle.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:46 pm

Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Not sure if anyone else said this but....

Where the hell does all the gasoline come from in TWD?
I want to know where the hell they got all their ammo from. That stuff never seems to run out.

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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:55 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:Not sure if anyone else said this but....

Where the hell does all the gasoline come from in TWD?
I want to know where the hell they got all their ammo from. That stuff never seems to run out.
They finally addressed this last season... Seems Rick and Co. are the only people in the PAW that still have ammo, but they are running short...

Not to worry, Eugene is going to teach them how to make more.... How convenient! :)
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by eugene » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:57 pm

Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:Here's one that really made me say "What the actual fuck?":

In the Criminal Minds episode "Identity", there comes a part where one of the agents picks up an empty case and says "7.62, an assault rifle round", and if that wasn't bad enough, when the episode actually shows the bad guy's weapon, it is a 5.56 AR. :x
I hate that show because of their subtle but constant liberal agenda.

In one episode they even implied that anyone who home schools their child is a pedophile!

But I'll play devil's advocate here. I have not seen that episode and I don't know the exact dialogue.

7.62 x 39 is an 'assault rifle' round. However we all know that it is technically classified as an intermediate cartridge.

And that mainstream media calls anything that isn't a handgun an assault rifle.
NCIS is just as bad, I see it when were at my parents, they watch it. The goth/emo/whatever she is supposed to be girl explained that frangible ammo was designed to inflict the most pain and suffering.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Langenator » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:51 pm

If I wanted to inflict extra pain and suffering, I'd figure out a way to put WP pellets in shotgun rounds.
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Re: When TV shows and movies get it wrong

Post by Beowolf » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:15 pm

Ignoring the unnecessary political commentary...

If you go back to the transcript, Abby describes the effects on the ammo after impact, notes that such effects explain the significant damage to the victim's first, and then Ducky notes that the shooter must have intended to cause the victim great pain (connecting the effects of the ammo in the particular case--not the general purpose of it--to the motive of the shooter) or was unfamiliar with the weapon (read=ammo).

Regarding the Criminal Minds episode and home schooling, I'd need to go back to that one, but if it's the religious group in Colorado, that wasn't the implication made as I recall. And the 7.62 remark was made upon finding an empty rifle rack and remarking that the unsub took his entire arsenal with him. A picture of Goehring elsewhere in the episode showed him with what looked like an AK variant, so the remark may have been in reference to that. But you're right--when they finally find the bad guy, he's armed with a 5.56.

There seems to be quite a tendency to jump at shadows when it comes to catching "errors" in TV.
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