Firearms Chat 3: #pewpewlife

[Dogan]

That odd moment when you see a friend of a friend's rifle in a nationally published gun mag.

Which rifle and which nationally published mag ?

The Fugly Nugget, and Recoil.

[Dave_M]

Fugly Nugget?

[Dogan]

Fugly Nugget?

It's a Nagant that's been Bubba'd. Chimpov, avert your eyes or, alternatively, bite down and think of Stalingrad.



(Normally I wouldn't share something like this, but it's in Recoil FFS. Persec seems to have... no application here. Plus said friend is not actually in any of the pics available at the site.)

[Halfapint]

Fugly Nugget

Personally I think it looks pretty cool, would love to see it shot at night. I bet there's one hell of a muzzle flash.

I do have a question about a savage 10. I bought one a while ago, and was looking at getting a differen my stock. Well I think my search has been forced into over drive due to my own asshattery. I seem to have stripped out the rear trigger guard screw. The plastic on th original stock is really cheap apparently and couldn't handle the screw going in at s 2 degree angle.

Anyways the question. Is spending 4-500 on a stockreally a worth while investment? This original stock is extremely comfortable for me to shoot. Even my gf who's 5'6" and 120 lbs thought it was comfy. At 200 yards I was shooting inside a post-it note with freedom reloaded ammo. With factory ammo I was shooting within a 1 1/2 inch circle without a bench. This is a savage 10t synthetic stock. does anyone have any recommendations on stocks they have?

Sorry to derail the thread I just like posting in here as to not clutter up the main page.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Fugly Nugget?

It's a Nagant that's been Bubba'd. Chimpov, avert your eyes or, alternatively, bite down and think of Stalingrad.



(Normally I wouldn't share something like this, but it's in Recoil FFS. Persec seems to have... no application here. Plus said friend is not actually in any of the pics available at the site.)

Actually, minus the goofy looking AR type stock, it doesn't look that bad.

If it were my gun, I'd have put it in one of those Archangel stocks Promag makes instead of chopping the original one down. I find a good deal on one of those Chinese Mosins, I plan on doing that actually.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Can someone tell me the differences between a carbine, rifle and mid length AR gas system ?

I ask because I'm looking at some rifle kits on PSA and one of the kits I'm interested in is a mid length system.

[RickOShea]

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

So the main difference is the length of the gas tube and distance from the gas block to the bolt ?

[Dave_M]

Fugly Nugget?

It's a Nagant that's been Bubba'd. Chimpov, avert your eyes or, alternatively, bite down and think of Stalingrad.



(Normally I wouldn't share something like this, but it's in Recoil FFS. Persec seems to have... no application here. Plus said friend is not actually in any of the pics available at the site.)

Ah, Searson's Sunday Night Range Porn

[Dave_M]

So the main difference is the length of the gas tube and distance from the gas block to the bolt ?

Yes, that would be it.

I can get into port pressures and dwell time and reliability envelopes based on barrel lengths and blahblahblah but if you're talking a 16" barrel carbine or middy is AOK.

[TheLastOne]

anyone getting interested in sig suppressors? Holy crap $520 msrp for a 556 or under $800 for a 7.62...

I haven't dug around for comparisons on DBs, but wow nice price points.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

So the main difference is the length of the gas tube and distance from the gas block to the bolt ?

Yes, that would be it.

I can get into port pressures and dwell time and reliability envelopes based on barrel lengths and blahblahblah but if you're talking a 16" barrel carbine or middy is AOK.

Cool. Thanks, Dave.

ETA:Thanks for the pics as well, Rick.

[Dave_M]

anyone getting interested in sig suppressors? Holy crap $520 msrp for a 556 or under $800 for a 7.62...

I haven't dug around for comparisons on DBs, but wow nice price points.

They are well made too. Good design.

[Brock Meatstone]

Time and time again I find the tactically-minded users of ZS to be informative beyond measure.
So here I am again, asking about chest rigs; split front, harness, is there a difference?
Looking to run 4 rifle mags, maybe 4 pistol mags in front. Not sure if I need that specific setup, or if there's something more practical. Help me guys, I'm lost on this one.

[Beowolf]

anyone getting interested in sig suppressors? Holy crap $520 msrp for a 556 or under $800 for a 7.62...

I haven't dug around for comparisons on DBs, but wow nice price points.

Indeed. Just wish I had money burning a hole in my pocket.

[woodsghost]

Time and time again I find the tactically-minded users of ZS to be informative beyond measure.
So here I am again, asking about chest rigs; split front, harness, is there a difference?
Looking to run 4 rifle mags, maybe 4 pistol mags in front. Not sure if I need that specific setup, or if there's something more practical. Help me guys, I'm lost on this one.

I"m following this guy's thoughts right now.




EDIT:

Just editing to add I really like the idea of having single-mag deep pouches on the chest so as to get lower in the prone.

A rather controversial opinion of mine is that it is not necessary to have a lot of pistol mags. 9mm and 5.56 weigh the same, so I figure why not just carry more rifle ammo? Rather than, say, 4 mags of rifle and 4 mags of pistol, why not just bring 7 mags of rifle and 1 mag of pistol? What purpose is that pistol really going to serve? It is there for those panic moments, but I believe your rifle, if rifles are out to play, will be doing most of the work.

[A completely separate issue is "how many mags to bring if all you have is a pistol"]

I don't actually have the Type 63 chest rig mentioned in the video, I have the 3 cell chinese chest rig (type 64?), which I love. But I would get the 4 cell pouch if I had it to do over again. They are cheap enough that one can actually collect them all, and they are very durable and comfortable, IMO. I do think it is worth doing some mods to them.

So far, the chinese chest pouch has worked with all load bearing/back packing gear I have tried it with, so that is a REAL plus in my book.

DOUBLE EDIT: To be clearer yet, I DO plan on getting the type 63 rig.

[TheLastOne]

anyone getting interested in sig suppressors? Holy crap $520 msrp for a 556 or under $800 for a 7.62...

I haven't dug around for comparisons on DBs, but wow nice price points.

They are well made too. Good design.

man I might have to get involved next year.

[chills1994]

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Thanks for posting those pictures Rick.

One of these days, I will spring for some quad rails for my AR's.

I have never looked at them, yet, without the handguards.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Fugly Nugget

Personally I think it looks pretty cool, would love to see it shot at night. I bet there's one hell of a muzzle flash.

I do have a question about a savage 10. I bought one a while ago, and was looking at getting a differen my stock. Well I think my search has been forced into over drive due to my own asshattery. I seem to have stripped out the rear trigger guard screw. The plastic on th original stock is really cheap apparently and couldn't handle the screw going in at s 2 degree angle.

Anyways the question. Is spending 4-500 on a stockreally a worth while investment? This original stock is extremely comfortable for me to shoot. Even my gf who's 5'6" and 120 lbs thought it was comfy. At 200 yards I was shooting inside a post-it note with freedom reloaded ammo. With factory ammo I was shooting within a 1 1/2 inch circle without a bench. This is a savage 10t synthetic stock. does anyone have any recommendations on stocks they have?

Sorry to derail the thread I just like posting in here as to not clutter up the main page.

Choate, Boyds, Bell and Carlson. Depends on how much you wanna spend.

[chills1994]

I bought two of these the other night:



Not so much to keep the pistols organized, but rather their magazines.

I was going to go to the range the other day and take my CZ75. But darn, I couldn't find the two mags that came with it.

So I was shooting the ol' standby...again...the Beretta 92.

It's like slipping into an old pair of sneakers.

I was trying to do the F.A.S.T. drill. That totally kicked my butt. I couldn't find my shot timer either

[yggdrasil45]

Took my Sar B6P out again. Ran some hollowpoints throught it, those cheap remington ones, then some aluminum case just to if it would run it.
I did some reading and apparently the .22 conversion for the small frame witness will work on it. Now I just need to find one in stock somewhere. I also need to find out if CZ triggers will work since there are some pretty good aftermarket triggers for the CZ75. Anyone know?

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

This is what I get for not checking an AK mag from a bin at a gun shop. I get a mag that holds one damn round. You read that right, a single frigging round.

So, in an effort to fix said single round magazine, I disassemble it and find the longest damn follower I've seen on an AK mag ever. The follower is too long for the mag body, so I toss it and drop in the follower from another AK mag I've got laying around. It works, but I'm not sure if it'll be a good idea to drop a 30 round mag follower into a 10 round magazine body. All else fails, I buy another follower and floor plate since I had to wreck the ones that were on the 10 round mag.

Speaking of which, anyone got a source for cheap AK mag followers and floor plates ?

[Doctorr Fabulous]

I think the followers are the same, limiters aside, for the various mag lengths.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

I think the followers are the same, limiters aside, for the various mag lengths.

Thanks for the info, Doc.

Now I just need to get another follower and floor plate to repair the 30 rounder I cannibalized to fix the 10 round mag.