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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by Dave_M » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:40 pm

TheLastOne wrote:Was the zombie eotech cheaper?
I invested exactly $0; I won it. Figured I could either buy a new hood or rattlecan it. However, the reticle is busybusybusy. It's a 65MOA circle with a 1MOA dot, like standard... Except with 30MOA arms sticking out of the thing.
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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:44 pm

Sounds perfect for a scattergun, everyone knows they spray the shot at 65MOA for the first ten feet, then squeeze back down to 10" groups.
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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by 00dlez » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:52 am

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Sounds perfect for a scattergun, everyone knows they spray the shot at 65MOA for the first ten feet, then squeeze back down to 10" groups.
It's called a Tactical Funhouse Mirror Choke.
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:06 pm

Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.

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Post by 0122358 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:18 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.
If I recall...most lowers are the same...if its 40 bucks...buy three lol

Dammit chimp now I might have to buy a couple.

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:37 pm

0122358 wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.
If I recall...most lowers are the same...if its 40 bucks...buy three lol

Dammit chimp now I might have to buy a couple.

Oh and update on my PMAGs, Botach shipped them yesterday I believe so next week they should arrive.
I was thinking of picking up a couple as well, Numbers.

I figure I snag a couple while they're cheap and build me an AR next year.

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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by raxar » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:39 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.

I have a couple, they seem very well made and the mag well is slightly flared at the bottom, they're nicer than my del-ton
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:15 pm

raxar wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.

I have a couple, they seem very well made and the mag well is slightly flared at the bottom, they're nicer than my del-ton
Thanks, Raxar.

I was trying to remember if anyone on ZS had any, but I couldn't quite figure out just who did.

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Post by AS556 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:40 pm

I have an Anderson lower with a Bravo Co. upper sitting on it, very nice fit and finish. Seemed nicer than my YHM lower. Finish is kinda matte, though, not glossy like BCM. At that price if funds permit I'd honestly buy 5.

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:07 pm

AS556 wrote:I have an Anderson lower with a Bravo Co. upper sitting on it, very nice fit and finish. Seemed nicer than my YHM lower. Finish is kinda matte, though, not glossy like BCM. At that price if funds permit I'd honestly buy 5.
If they still have some in the coming weeks, I might pick up a couple.

The ones with the integrated trigger guard seem really nice too.

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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by Brotherbadger » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:35 am

0122358 wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.
If I recall...most lowers are the same...if its 40 bucks...buy three lol

Dammit chimp now I might have to buy a couple.

Oh and update on my PMAGs, Botach shipped them yesterday I believe so next week they should arrive.
Nice. I got mine saturday, so it took approx 4 days. Pretty fast, TBH.
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:Would 40 bucks be too much for an Anderson Manufacturing AR-15 stripped lower ?

I ask because AIM Surplus has some right now for about that and I'm not sure if the maker is good or why the lowers are 40 bucks.
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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by AS556 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:32 am

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
AS556 wrote:I have an Anderson lower with a Bravo Co. upper sitting on it, very nice fit and finish. Seemed nicer than my YHM lower. Finish is kinda matte, though, not glossy like BCM. At that price if funds permit I'd honestly buy 5.
If they still have some in the coming weeks, I might pick up a couple.

The ones with the integrated trigger guard seem really nice too.

Mine has the integral triggerguard, I like it because I don't like pounding the roll pin into place on the guard. This looks better and no risk of breaking your lower.

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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by Dave_M » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:21 pm

I posted this in bartertown but probably will get more traction here
Okay, one of my stupid hobbies is collecting different commercial AR mags. They don't have to be pretty or even function. Looking to trade USGI mags for your weird ones (trade value depends on what you have).

Looking for:
MWG
Tapco
Promag
CAA (both normal and countdown)
Plinker Tactical
Hex Mags
Hk translucent polymer mags


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Post by Waywatcher » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:58 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Sounds perfect for a scattergun, everyone knows they spray the shot at 65MOA for the first ten feet, then squeeze back down to 10" groups.
Well, 65MOA at 10 feet is 2.27" which sounds about right, actually. :clownshoes:

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Post by Greg Focker » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:37 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Sounds perfect for a scattergun, everyone knows they spray the shot at 65MOA for the first ten feet, then squeeze back down to 10" groups.
65MOA appears to be a good approximation. First result for the google search "shotgun spread per linear yard" yields this. ~60MOA from an 18" cylinder choke barrel. I don't know if this was intentionally part of the EoTech design, and I'm too tired to care.

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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by chills1994 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:32 am

Dave_M wrote:Shit just got weird
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It is funny timing, you posting that pic. Granted, I have not priced out SCAR Heavy's (or whatever they are called), but I was just thinking about what everyone's impression of a SCAR Heavy versus a DSA FAL SA58 Para model:

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According to DSA's website, they are $1,975.00
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Re: Firearms Chat Part 2: Bullpups cause all the rage!

Post by Dave_M » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:23 am

chills1994 wrote:
Dave_M wrote:Shit just got weird
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It is funny timing, you posting that pic. Granted, I have not priced out SCAR Heavy's (or whatever they are called), but I was just thinking about what everyone's impression of a SCAR Heavy versus a DSA FAL SA58 Para model:

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According to DSA's website, they are $1,975.00
SCAR Heavy is lighter and much more controllable.
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Post by Rednex » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:56 pm

Well hell i was doing gun porn and my Stream Light TLR-1's looked weird. The hing broke, it still worked when held together by the trigger guard. It was on a Sig P229.

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Rednex wrote:Well hell i was doing gun porn and my Stream Light TLR-1's looked weird. The hing broke, it still worked when held together by the trigger guard. It was on a Sig P229.

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Well shit, that sucks. Better call Streamlight.

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Post by chills1994 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:40 pm

Dave_M wrote:
chills1994 wrote:
Dave_M wrote:Shit just got weird
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It is funny timing, you posting that pic. Granted, I have not priced out SCAR Heavy's (or whatever they are called), but I was just thinking about what everyone's impression of a SCAR Heavy versus a DSA FAL SA58 Para model:

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According to DSA's website, they are $1,975.00
SCAR Heavy is lighter and much more controllable.
Thanks!

I would imagine the SCAR is way easier to attach optics and other doo-dads to it as well.

I tried going to gunbroker to check out prices on a SCAR heavy, and .... :shock:

Those people must be nuts!
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Post by Greg Focker » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:16 am

chills1994 wrote:
Dave_M wrote:
chills1994 wrote:
Dave_M wrote:Shit just got weird
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It is funny timing, you posting that pic. Granted, I have not priced out SCAR Heavy's (or whatever they are called), but I was just thinking about what everyone's impression of a SCAR Heavy versus a DSA FAL SA58 Para model:

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According to DSA's website, they are $1,975.00
SCAR Heavy is lighter and much more controllable.
Thanks!

I would imagine the SCAR is way easier to attach optics and other doo-dads to it as well.

I tried going to gunbroker to check out prices on a SCAR heavy, and .... :shock:

Those people must be nuts!
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Post by PistolPete » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Why would anyone select 5.56 / .223 for a firearm with a 7.5" barrel? You see these all the time and I can't see why. At that barrel length you have equal or less energy than any of the common pistol rounds. As well, you are well below the fragmentation threshold at the muzzle. You are losing the flat trajectory you get with the velocityof 556 out of a rifle. All at the cost of a smaller hole and significant muzzle blast over any of the pistol rounds.

Anyone shoot one of these or have a good reason they want to? I'm quite curious.
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Post by Assault Life » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:26 pm

PistolPete wrote:Why would anyone select 5.56 / .223 for a firearm with a 7.5" barrel? You see these all the time and I can't see why. At that barrel length you have equal or less energy than any of the common pistol rounds. As well, you are well below the fragmentation threshold at the muzzle. You are losing the flat trajectory you get with the velocityof 556 out of a rifle. All at the cost of a smaller hole and significant muzzle blast over any of the pistol rounds.

Anyone shoot one of these or have a good reason they want to? I'm quite curious.
I have a 7.5" pistol in 5.56. It's used mostly in .22lr configuration with a can, though. I own several other ARs with varying barrel lengths, and just wanted a 7.5" I guess. The flash with 5.56 is impressive if you're into that kind of thing. Which I am. It's just a fun gun, not my go-to, unless there's some tasty treats running around my property.
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Post by woodsghost » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:29 pm

PistolPete wrote:Why would anyone select 5.56 / .223 for a firearm with a 7.5" barrel? You see these all the time and I can't see why.
Cuz you want to set them on fire and want to give "being deaf" a try.
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