Redeyes wrote: Browning 35 wrote:
Redeyes wrote:It was a big problem for 3rd and 4th gens for about a year I think. Now their stuff works again. That and the bad trigger on early M&Ps put Apex Tactical on the map and made them a bunch of money. Some big name guys still think Apex extractors for Glocks are a good upgrade. Did it get blown out of proportion? Of course it did. But it was a real problem for a time. Didn't help that early on when you called Glock about the problem some of the guys on the phone tried to blame it on the ammo you were using. I know. I called about my new 3rd gen that was jamming every three rounds. Got told that I shouldn't be using 115 grain 9mm. Sent Apex some money for an extractor and used the different Glock factory parts they recommended and haven't had any malfunctions since, except for one light primer strike after most of a K of Wolf with no cleaning. Could have just been a harder than normal primer or the primer was set in too far. I went on to fire a couple hundred more rounds with no issues before I cleaned it.
If you do manage to get one of the problem guns that may still be floating around in the used market, don't panic. If you go with Glock factory parts the fix is like $20 and easily done using Youtube videos for a reference.
ETA My bad, more like $30. You could probably call Glock and get it done for free and a free shipping label if you are a bit insistent. Wouldn't hurt to try anyway.
Your experience with the problems on 4th Gen Glocks is one of the few online I'd trust. You're a reliable source. So if you're saying that then I believe you. Others I've seen online all tended to fall into the 2nd cousins college roommate type stuff. Never ran across anyone in person yet that had an issue though and everyone I know just about owns a 3rd and/or a 4th Gen Glock. Luck of the draw I guess.
Good to know even if someone does wind up with one of the lemons that there's something that they can do about it on their own. So is it just one of the Apex extractors or does the recoil spring assembly need to be replaced as well?
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. I went with an Apex extractor because they got them out before Glock did. Glock now makes a decent extractor. The only parts you should need are the current OEM extractor for your model of pistol and a 30274 ejector for 3rd Gens and the current OEM for 4th Gens. Please understand that this info is only the best I was able to put together. Some pistols from that time never developed problems. Some couldn't be fixed. I believe this will work for most of the pistols though.
Cool, thanks. I was more asking for future reference just in case I or someone I know picks up one of the lemons. Could happen, lemons tend to get passed around on the used market as people are in a hurry to off-load them. If more people know how to fix them then maybe the buck will stop there and they'll quit trying to pass along the turd for the next guy to take a bite so that they can get their money out of it.
*Knock on wood
* the Glock 2nd, 3rd and 4th Gen pistols I have right now all run great. The 4th Gen 17 I bought at the time period right at the height when all this stuff was happening, two friends bought 4th Gen 19's, one bought a 17 like mine, I bought that 3rd Gen 20SF awhile later, another range buddy bought a 3rd Gen 21 (I think that one's fullsize) and then 3 other guys at my work bought a mismatch of Glocks 3rd and 4th gen (two 19's and a G23 .40 4th Gen) through that Blue gun program and all were without issue. :Shrug
So after hearing all that on the web and then buying and shooting all those new guns in such a short period of time we were like "This is a bunch of bullshit
". We were laughing at each other for being all worried. At any rate maybe it was a little more widespread than I originally thought, but to hear it on the web pigs were flying and Glock was never to be trusted again. So I still think that it got blown out of proportion in some circles. Glad you got yours running though.