Re: Flint Lock Rifle Build FINISHED, VIDEO! 5-19-14!

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle Build FINISHED, VIDEO! 5-19-14!

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Well, looks like my Dad is at it once again. He finished two rifles this summer and is now able to work on one for himself:

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The barrel, a .40 swamped barrel, was just finished being inleted yesterday. He band sawed the stock from a blank. He also made the chest the rifle is sitting on from scrap pine he had lying around.

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The muzzle area. He cut the groove and drilled a 13" hole for the ramrod today and was sweating bullets. The drill can sometimes turn and run crooked and come up through the barrel channel or the side of the stock.

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He was able to fit the lock plate in as well. Yes, the barrel is not dead center in the stock. He needs the extra wood for the cheek piece, which he will do when he slims the stock down.

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Lock plate detail. He still has to finish polishing, fitting and tuning the lock, but not until the stock and barrel are nearly complete. Note the pencil lines in the upper left for reference.

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Left side. Lots of wood to come off and yes, that beautiful figure runs throughout the whole stock.

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Close up of his reference marking, always in pencil. Also, notice the gouges to the left, following the grain pattern vertically. Curly maple likes to do that when you are carving, scraping or sanding it.

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Barrel, barrel tang and powder pan of the lock. A screw will go through the tang, down through the wrist of the stock. The figure of the wood is quite clear.

This should be a sweet looking and shooting rifle when he is finished. The "swamped" barrel tapers from the breach to the muzzle and flares out again about 1/3 the way to the muzzle. Very difficult to inlet, about 20 hours or more just getting that in. Right now, you need a rubber hammer and a dowel to free the barrel from the stock. He got it that tight!

I plan on taking more pics as he progresses. This is his winter project and he will be taking his time with it, so be patient. It will be worth it.

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.40 cal, 42 inch octagon barrel with round bottom rifling with 1:72" twist
Flint lock ignition, black powder only.
Curly maple stock
Basic shape will be in the Lancaster County School style.
Brass furniture (trigger guard, but plate, etc.) so far, but may change.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning

Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:54 pm

Can't wait to see how this turns out. :awesome:
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning

Post by ZMace » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:04 pm

That is going to be a very beautiful piece of wood once finished.

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:08 am

Thanks guys! Right now he is in he workshop, doing more. I am planning to post more pics as he progresses along, something I have wanted to do on one of these projects for a long time.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning

Post by TXWildcat » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:16 pm

this is gonna be sweet. please update often! :mrgreen:

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:23 pm

TXWildcat wrote:this is gonna be sweet. please update often! :mrgreen:
Will do and thanks. Might do some later tonight.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 11/27

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:15 pm

More work completed:

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Lock and lock mortis, or recess. Yes, a lot of wood has come out, making this area the rifle's weakest spot. The pencil line around the recess is for reference for later carving.

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The lock itself, which came in a rough forged kit form. There are 20 individual parts (without the flint) that have to be polished and fitted before final assembly. Then he will "tune" it to make it reliable and quick igniting. This is akin to a trigger job on an old S&W revolver.

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Inside the lock. Too bad this is hidden inside the stock, it's actually kind of pretty. The main spring, sear spring, tumbler and bridle are visible. The maker's stamp, L&R, are also visible on the lock plate.

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Close up of the bridle, sear and the screws that hold it all in place. The tumbler, underneath the bridle, is attached to the cock through the lockplate by a screw from the outside. The half cock notch is hidden because the mechanism is at full cock/fire position.

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Close up of the lock recess. While this looks like random areas of wood were removed, in truth the is just enough room for the main spring, bridle, tumbler and sear to move without binding up. Usually he will leave a few thousandths of an inch to compensate for the wood swelling and shrinking in different temperatures. The lock plate, though, always fits as tight as possible. Two hole will be drilled for two bolts that will hold the lock in place.

So far about 30 to 40 hours of work. Probably another 40-60+ to go...
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 11/27

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:05 am

More pics tonight. Lots of wood has been coming off...
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:04 pm

Got kind of tied up last night doing another project. But work has progressed and here is the proof in the form of pics:

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Lots of wood along the sides. This is from the muzzle end.

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From the breech to the muzzle. Getting thinner every day. It will be only about a 16th of an inch along the sides when he gets done.

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Breech end. You can see the wood that has yet to come off and what he has left for the cheek piece.

This is the period of the most wood removal. He still has to be careful at this stage not to take too much off. You can also see many pencil lines that are his guide marks. These let him know just how far to go and just where to place other parts such as the trigger guard and butt plate.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by KYZHunters » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:37 pm

I have no desire to own or even shoot a weapon like this but I'm enjoying the hell out of process. I hope you keep posting through the first puff of smoke.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

KYZHunters wrote:I have no desire to own or even shoot a weapon like this but I'm enjoying the hell out of process. I hope you keep posting through the first puff of smoke.

Thanks! We are thinking about doing a short video on the lock igniting a pan full of priming powder. Not sure how much he has gotten done today but I really want to get as many pictures as I can of this. My dad is 70 winters old and he keeps saying he is not sure how many rifle he's got left in him.
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Post by KYZHunters » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:26 pm

I hope it's always one more.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:11 pm

KYZHunters wrote:I hope it's always one more.
Me too. I have just about all the parts for a smooth bore matchlock that I would like to build sometime soon!
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by MacAttack » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:55 pm

What tool is your dad using to inlet the barrel?

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by Dave_M » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:39 am

Can't wait to see the finished project! I always like admiring your father's craftsmanship.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:24 am

MacAttack wrote:What tool is your dad using to inlet the barrel?
First he determined where the barrel was going to set and drew pencil lines to mark out the dimensions. He then used a series of Forsner bits to drill a series of shallow holes along the length of the stock and stayed within the pencil lines. The rest was done by chisels and custom built scrapers. When he gets to the final fittings, he blackens the barrel with candle smoke and then place it into the channel and taps it into place. Any high spots will appear black on the stock and as bare spots on the barrel. Ancient method but he says nothing works as good.

Thanks for the kind comments guys. More to come this weekend and then he is going to be taking a break middle of the month...to go deer hunting with a flint lock rifle! :P
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/02

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:09 pm

More pics soon.
My dad has a piece of scrap wood that he is using to see what stain he likes best. Would anyone like to see some pics of that? Might give you some ideas of what the finish will look like.
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Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:46 pm

Like you even have to ask. :rofl:
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/08

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:03 pm

Well, not the greatest pics but will give you some idea of what the rifle will look like with a bit of stain on it. This piece was cut from the stock itself so the grain will be the same on the rifle.

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He also rubbed some tung oil on this to see if it brought more grain out, which it did. Instead of tung oil, he will use Minwax Rub On Poly in several coats. It gives a great non shiny finish and seals the woods against weather. This will be followed by a coat of BriWax for the final touch.

Wish the pics weren't so dark. but it does give the idea.
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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/08

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/08

Post by colinz » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:51 am

This looks fantastic!

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Re: Flint Lock Rifle...A beginning UPDATE 12/08

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:33 pm

Thanks guys. Hopefully he will get some more done this week before he leaves for his hunting trip.

He did use an un traditional technique though: glass bedding. There were some voids in the wood underneath the barrel channel and he wanted to reinforce the area where the breech plug and tang fit into the stock, since this is an area that can split easily, even in modern rifles. The glass bedding not only makes these areas strong but insures a perfect fit.
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