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Post by eeb » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:23 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Can anyone direct me to the legal requirements for a barrel to be considered rifled? Don't ask why.
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Re: Firearms Chat: Stipple that, home edition

Post by Sledgecrowbar » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:18 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:Can anyone direct me to the legal requirements for a barrel to be considered rifled? Don't ask why.
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Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:24 pm

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Re: Firearms Chat: Stipple that, home edition

Post by chills1994 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:51 pm

Doctorr Fabulous wrote:
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0122358 wrote:So i was talking to a couple friends earlier...they arent really gun people, they own a couple guns, a old jap arisaka, a single shot 12 gauge, a single shot .22...they think theyre cool...but not...like us, those of us who take it as a serious hobby and train with our firearms.

Any way we got onto the topic of guns and at somepoint I mentioned Moron Labia! when the disscussion got a bit heated...they looked at me in confusion..so I explained it to them that it was an old Greek saying "come and take them" and gave a mini history lesson which they overlooked and simply looked at me and said " I didnt know you were greek?"

Facepalm...i'm not....i'm scottish and german...I mentioned thermopie (sp) and they went "oh like 300?"

faceplam harder...My friends are like family...but it sucks being the gun nut enthusiust.
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Considering it's the catchphrase of overweight collectors with more money than training? Yes, really. Although it's unfortunate that the Greek phrase wasn't "Molon Vanus" or something with a more entertaining rhyme scheme. I could go into all kinds of history about it, but the long and short of it is that it's been co-opted by fringe political elements and has been repeated so often that it more often conjures the image of an overweight out of breath gun show expert than the lean professional warriors of ancient Sparta in a manner reminiscent of how Lady Gaga coopted "born this way" to sell records.

Take a look in the mirror. Are you in shape? Can you outshoot, outruck, outhink, outfight a professional soldier? Are you facing down a military force that has swept the known world by storm? No? Then don't say it like you know what it means.

On another note, rifle PT is less challenging when your rifle isn't a 10lb pig. Might have to sdee about an RPD clone...
Yeah, sure, I am an over weight out of shape white guy. Not quite central casting for a WASPy looking extra in a gunshow scene, but close enough. I don't subscribe to the whole chest thumping Molon Labe mentality. Every translation I have ever seen of that phrase is "come and get them" or "come and take them".

It is nowhere near "I am going to run a marathon to get to your garrison, sneak in, and put a figure four leg lock on every hoplite, then poison your commander's wine with hemlock."

A lot of the people who do subscribe to that attitude are X-professional soldiers. What then?

It will never get to that point, but....

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Post by Maverick299 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:54 pm

Run and hide, deer. Run and hide. Daddy put a muzzle brake on the Dan Wesson tonight.

Paired with some Buffalo Bore 158 grain JHC's and this becomes a whitetail's worst nightmare!



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Post by Brotherbadger » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:57 am

Maverick299 wrote:Run and hide, deer. Run and hide. Daddy put a muzzle brake on the Dan Wesson tonight.

Paired with some Buffalo Bore 158 grain JHC's and this becomes a whitetail's worst nightmare!



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Post by Greg Focker » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:29 am

Brotherbadger wrote:
Maverick299 wrote:Run and hide, deer. Run and hide. Daddy put a muzzle brake on the Dan Wesson tonight.

Paired with some Buffalo Bore 158 grain JHC's and this becomes a whitetail's worst nightmare!



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That looks like an .88 Magnum to me.
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Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:31 am

Greg Focker wrote:
Brotherbadger wrote:
Maverick299 wrote:Run and hide, deer. Run and hide. Daddy put a muzzle brake on the Dan Wesson tonight.

Paired with some Buffalo Bore 158 grain JHC's and this becomes a whitetail's worst nightmare!



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That looks like an .88 Magnum to me.
It shoots through schools?
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I'm just going to leave this here.
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Post by Ten Eight » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:32 am

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Post by Beowolf » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:25 am

Wow. Dramatic much? ;)
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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:27 am

Beowolf wrote:Wow. Dramatic much? ;)
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Post by Beowolf » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:32 am

I would just love to hear the conversation between myself and the campus police after being contacted for carrying my SOG. :clap:
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:53 am

Beowolf wrote:Wow. Dramatic much? ;)
Sure, why not. I've seen much more dramatic vids from Daniel Defense, Chris Costa or Sig.

This guy is selling a course, why not pump it up? No one pays attention unless you have some sort of show. Because training is just lame, right. So many folks have AR-15s, which aren't EDC either, but pay thousands for them, to train with them and will most likely never use them. Yet, training martial arts is some how lame because it's not as cool as that AR-15 or Glock that you're never going to use in any defensive form.

Not directed at anyone but get off your fucking high horse. Really, it's fucking tiring and lame.

Maybe I need a AR pistol with an arm brace, cause that's fucking cool. :roll:
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Post by crypto » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:58 am

RG, that video looks about as compelling as the Chinese Wonder Shovel video, or every trampoline-jumping backflipping inverted hatchet attack Spetznas video I've ever seen.
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:01 am

crypto wrote:RG, that video looks about as compelling as the Chinese Wonder Shovel video, or every trampoline-jumping backflipping inverted hatchet attack Spetznas video I've ever seen.
Do you practice martial arts? I like it, while not for you, someone may.

Seriously, what about it makes you dismiss it?
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Post by Fletch » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:04 am

Gingerbread Man wrote: Not directed at anyone but get off your fucking high horse. Really, it's fucking tiring and lame.
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:05 am

Fletch wrote:
Gingerbread Man wrote: Not directed at anyone but get off your fucking high horse. Really, it's fucking tiring and lame.
As is blue text.
Sure is pal, so is hopping in just to stir the pot.
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Post by crypto » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:05 am

Not any eastern schools, no. I do Cop-fu with my wife, as shes the combatives/PPCT instructor for her department.

Since I practice cop-fu, I'm always thinking of 'how is this going to look when a jury sees the tape of it', and cleaving the shit out of someone with an axe like a berzerker Viking of yore is going to go over very badly in my mind.


In before 'better judged by 12 than carried by 6'
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:12 am

crypto wrote: Since I practice cop-fu, I'm always thinking of 'how is this going to look when a jury sees the tape of it', and cleaving the shit out of someone with an axe like a berzerker Viking of yore is going to go over very badly in my mind.


In before 'better judged by 12 than carried by 6'
Yes, that is true but so will blasting someone with an AR-15. Or stabbing someone, I'm not being snarky here and I'm not all about hacking the living piss out of someone.

Everyone I've met that stabbed someone in defense went to jail that night and released the next day. I've also know people put in cuffs and charged because they used martial arts, like hands and fists, to defend themselves because they put a hurt on the other guy. One guy broke a guys arm with an arm bar. When it worked out in court everyone said he did it in defense and eventually was dismissed.

Self defense, even when you totally in the right, will look bad to some.
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Post by Fletch » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:14 am

I belong in Firearms chat just as much as an axe does :awesome:
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Post by crypto » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:17 am

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Re: Firearms Chat: Stipple that, home edition

Post by Beowolf » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:19 am

Gingerbread Man wrote:
Beowolf wrote:Wow. Dramatic much? ;)
Sure, why not. I've seen much more dramatic vids from Daniel Defense, Chris Costa or Sig.
I would mock those, too, as such approaches help viewers fixate on form over function, cool factor over practical factor, so ultimately all the drama does is capture the weaker mind. Show me the utility of the approach of method and I'll be interested. For example, if they had stripped out the "OMFG, CHAOS IS COMING PROTECTYOURFAMILYWITHANANCIENTWEAPON" b.s., I would have had little more than, "That was pretty cool" to say.

However, that's not the approach they chose. They hollywoodized it. And I think that's dumb.
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