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Are you good with what you have ?

Post by mk_ultra » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:04 pm

I have a little thought exercise for everyone .

Watching people deal with the newest panic got me thinking . A bit of backstory first . I got divorced and moved 3 years or so ago . Along with this came a career change in which my income took a very large hit . I foresaw this happening and prepared accordingly . I knew at the time that the guns ammo and gear that I had would be all that I had for quite a while as the prospect of adding anything new seemed extremely unlikely anytime in the near future .

Basically , what I owned was going to be all that I owned .

I sold off a few things to generate some extra cash and to buy different things to streamline my collection . I consider myself to be quite well armed even though I own fewer guns and have a few holes in the collection I would like to fill .

I see people dealing with increased scarcity and prices in the current panic and it makes me think of my own situation . I am glad I bought what I could when I did , because I am not getting anything else anytime soon . I know several people that wish they had gotten this or that when they had the chance .

So , my question to ZS . How well would you be off tomorrow if for whatever reason (aliens , zombies , money , life in general) you could no longer acquire new guns or ammo . What do you really need , What are the problems with what you already have ? Discuss . :D
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Shiloh » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:08 pm

I'm pretty much screwed. I've got less than a box for the .270, about 40 rounds for the mosin (though it's suffering from stuck case syndrome right now, so it's basically a muzzle-loader), but I've got around 200 rounds of birdshot. :lol: So unless the aliens/zombies/PAW wait for me to make a metric F-ton of wax slugs, I'm pretty much screwed.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by ancient_serpent » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:16 pm

mk_ultra wrote:
So , my question to ZS . How well would you be off tomorrow if for whatever reason (aliens , zombies , money , life in general) you could no longer acquire new guns or ammo . What do you really need , What are the problems with what you already have ? Discuss . :D
Pretty well off. I started my collection with an AR, a 1911 and a Glock then built from there. I figured, at the time, that no matter what I bought from that point, it would only expand my capabilities from a very capable set of weapons.
As of now, I have enough firearms, equipment and ammunition for my purposes and could sustain my group for as long as need be. I'm at the point where buying more ammunition and spare parts is more of a priority than acquiring new firearms. I still need to pick up a good bolt gun and scope, but besides that I'm all set.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by BullOnParade » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:32 pm

I've been in a similar situation for more than a few months. Last fall my hours were cut back significantly enough that I continuously had to dip into savings to get by. I haven't really been in a position to purchase much more ammo than what I was using, and I was using at a reduced rate. Now that my finances are starting to turn around, stock availability is slim at best.

As far as what I have VS. what I want, I could use some more ammo for the shotgun, I'd much prefer to have an extra couple hundred rounds for everything, but the shotgun is the lowest. I'm fairly squared in .38 (well, components anyways, I need to do a few nights of reloading) and .22 (the two rounds I shoot competitively with), and I have a few hundred rounds of 9mm and .303 (calibers I shoot recreationally).

First thing I'm adding to the collection when funds permit is a 5.56 carbine, likely a VZ58. This means a new caliber to stock, so I've really got to make sure the funds are available before I move forward with this purchase. Beyond that, I don't see any large holes in my collection from a prepper point of view, I may consider a high velocity air rifle as my next prep related gun after the carbine.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Murphman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:45 pm

Shiloh wrote:I'm pretty much screwed. I've got less than a box for the .270, about 40 rounds for the mosin (though it's suffering from stuck case syndrome right now, so it's basically a muzzle-loader), but I've got around 200 rounds of birdshot. :lol: So unless the aliens/zombies/PAW wait for me to make a metric F-ton of wax slugs, I'm pretty much screwed.
.270 and #6 shot was all my local Wally World had in stock last night. I passed, but literally stood there thinking "maybe I should look into .270 if ammo is plentiful" lol.

I could always use more 9mm and 22lr. Would also feel better with a couple hundred more 00 buck, but I don't use them for anything except insurance, so it is tough to justify.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by MacAttack » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:04 pm

Due to recent unforeseen economic circumstances I am a bit cash short at the moment.

But as for ammo and planning ahead I'm fine as far as ammo. I am waiting for a bit more cash in order to get a few adds and ends as far as gun parts go.

I'm now down to primarily using .22lr as pistol practice. But I have enough 9mm and .45 for a few rounds a week for the rest of the year. 12g and 20g I have way more than enough.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Silent Kube » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Although some on these boards would scoff at my ammo supply, I feel relatively secure with it. I would feel better if I had more 9mm though.

My biggest weakness is that all I have for a rifle is my old turk Mauser. Luckily I bought enough ammo on strippers for it back when it was cheap so I have been able to practice fast reloads and firing. It'll do the trick until I can get something bettet.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by HuntingBow96 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:09 pm

Guns wise, i'm screwed, I don't own any at the minute (UK laws and that :roll: )

However I own a few good blades and a good enough crossbow with lots of arrows to see me through I should think.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Paladin1 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:22 pm

Probably few here would say they wouldn't want more (fill in blank here).

I happen to be below where I would normally be on ammo because this current madness caught me during a transition from AK to AR, and from .308 to 300BO.

But realistically, anything short of an absolute TEOTWAWKI, I good.

I'm more worried about food. I don't have enough stashed.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Dogan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:26 pm

Totally not good.

No battle rifle (Just Mosin's and .22's), no combat-worthy pistol (<1930 and single-action revolvers only ATM), no .22 pistol. I've got about 2500 rounds for everything, and six months ago that felt alright. Now it feels really lean.

When all this panic dies down, combat pistol, AR build, .22 pistol, dedicated .22 AR analog are in that order on my list. With ammo in between. Lots and lots of ammo.

But first: Get my BIL back up to 2-3+ mos of food and water (all running lean except for water ATM), repair my primary and secondary BOV's, address my current health issues, get a better pack (LAPG 3-day is disintegrating at the seams). And get a steady job to replace my ... what 5? a bunch of part time gigs I'm currently trying to run and barely breaking even with. I'm comfortable geographically, in a low-risk high natural resource area and spending my nights in a well-protected area, but not in any other ways.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by majorhavoc » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:41 pm

HuntingBow96 wrote:Guns wise, i'm screwed, I don't own any at the minute (UK laws and that :roll: )

However I own a few good blades and a good enough crossbow with lots of arrows to see me through I should think.
I didn't know you were from the UK, HB. No wonder you're so focused on crossbows and a certain crossbow-wielding character from a popular American TV series! 8-)

I have a .22lr semi-auto rifle, a 9mm handgun and a military style semi-auto carbine, I'm pretty light in terms of magazines for each (4, 5 and 3, respectively) and about 700 rnds of .22, and about 500 each of 9mm and .223.

I'm feeling ok with my stable of firearms, but I feel vulnerable with my current ammo situation. Not so much due to the absolute number of rounds I currently have under my roof, but I'm very uncomfortable with the knowledge that I currently have no practical way of replenishing them.

Assuming the ammo shortage ever ends and .22lr and reloading components for 9mm and .223 become affordable/available again, I'll be stocking a lot deeper so at least I can continue to shoot recreationally.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by charadeur » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:43 pm

I could use more 22. I could always use more 22. However I would guess if the SHTF I won't be shooting for fun so what I have would probably last awhile.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by SRO1911 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:50 pm

Dogan wrote:Totally not good.

No battle rifle (Just Mosin's and .22's),
...While not as 'tacti-cool' as a modern carbine, you do know that the mosin is one of the more severely tested battle rifles out there - just a FEW hundred thousand of them went to war - in some of the harshest conditions imaginable.
Don't think you are under-gunned because you do not have the latest and greatest, you may not be able to do an uberawesome 3 second mag dump - but you can very easily turn 'cover' into mere concealment.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Dogan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:57 pm

SRO1911 wrote:
Dogan wrote:Totally not good.

No battle rifle (Just Mosin's and .22's),
...While not as 'tacti-cool' as a modern carbine, you do know that the mosin is one of the more severely tested battle rifles out there - just a FEW hundred thousand of them went to war - in some of the harshest conditions imaginable.
Don't think you are under-gunned because you do not have the latest and greatest, you may not be able to do an uberawesome 3 second mag dump - but you can very easily turn 'cover' into mere concealment.
Not dissing the Mosin, hell an M44 was my first rifle, but I realize that there are rifles which are far lighter, more accurate, faster to fire, more reliable and easier to find ammo for. Not to mention shorter. And faster to reload. The thought of having to pick between a Mosin and a .22 as a bug-out rifle is not at all appealing. Nor is choosing between antique .32 semiauto or single-action revolver for bug out pistol.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by ausher » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:54 pm

I have 3 semi auto hand guns and 1 ar. I'm fine with that. I got about 300 rounds per gun aside from the .22 pistol which I got 1600 rounds. In a shtf survival situation I would use the guns as last resort. My heavily modified co2 pistol can take out small game for when snares fail me.

My guns would mainly be for protection for me and my family and an occasional larger game if I had too....

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by doc savage » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:20 pm

i'm still shooting from stockpiles of ammo I bought ten years ago....

if it hit the fan right now....I could equip four- four man squads with like caliber longarms, two full combat loadouts of ammo, and give the designated "officer" a semi auto handgun...and not miss it.

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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Mr. E. Monkey » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:28 pm

I would be sad about not being able to finish my second AR...but if I couldn't buy any more guns ever ever ever, I'd be okay with what I have. ALWAYS need more ammo, though. 9mm in particular.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Vicarious_Lee » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:22 pm

I had an increase in income that coincided with the Panic of '08. I've been preparing since then. I need more spare parts for all my guns, but I'm in phenomenally better shape this time around than last time.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Beowolf » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:28 pm

I am rifle-less at the moment. Have a .45, .40, and 9mm, all with plenty of ammo, so I'm good there. But a long arm would be nice.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by yossarian » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:38 pm

My brief stint as a gun store commando and the resulting connections left me in good standing. I could cover the mortgage for a few months and still be well armed. Hell, I still have some boxes of 9mm marked $5.99 (and it was over priced range ammo when I got it).
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Whiskey » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:22 am

I could shoot my way through any scenario I can think of with what I have I hand. Since most real situations I can think of require little to no tactical application of bullets, I feel pretty good. I could always have more for training though.


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Post by Kutter_0311 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:35 am

I'm really glad I took the chance to upgrade and standardize before MilCopp a few years ago.

Now I have a pair of solid Russian AK's, a pair of Glocks, and mags and ammo to feed them.

Basic, yes, but they do what needs doing, and they don't complain. I am not sad I sold everything else off.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by Brotherbadger » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:42 am

Once i build the upper for my 1st AR, i'll be good on guns. I have enough handguns/rifles/shotguns to last my entire lifetime. As for ammo? I am no where CLOSE to where i need to be. I've never been a guy to have a lot of ammo on hand, but since i am moving into a bigger place, i have the room to be able to justify having a large collection. Once prices start coming back down/availability is high i'll start stockpiling.
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Re: Are you good with what you have ?

Post by iron_angel » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:38 am

I think what I have now is serviceable but not ideal. After several weapons have changed hands, been traded, sold, bought, etc, I currently have a FAL, a No 5 Mk 1 SMLE, an M44 Mosin and a CZ-75B Compact. I've got about 300rds of 9x19, ~500rds of .308, 80rds of 7.62x54R and 160rds of .303 British, and enough reloading supplies for about 1000 9mm, 500 7.62x51/308, and about 100 each for the old bolties. That's hardly awesome, but it's enough to handle any sort of likely crisis.

I could really stand to put some kind of glass on both the FAL and the SMLE, though, and acquire more/better food, water, power and such. A subcompact pistol and maybe some kind of predator-defense-capable full-frame pistol would be useful too. (I'm debating between the Tanfoglio Witness 10mm or the Glock 20SF - the Glock having the advantage of Glock reliability and accessories, while the Tanfoglio has much the same ergonomics as the CZ and muscle memory would translate better... Hmmm.)

I should probably nix the Mosin and get some kind of .22, and probably a shotgun of some kind would be useful - but I think beefing up the ammo stockpile, plus obviously the other, non-firearm preps, take higher priority.

So, in short, good enough, but not where I *ought* to be.
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