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Shooting with the Other Significant Other:with More Pics

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:22 pm
by doc66
Shorty likes to tease me about my “boyfriends.” If you listen to her, I have a lot of them; Simon Zane, Dave_M, Omega_Man…. Well, I’m not the only one with this problem of my Significant Other mistaking my friends for something more than just friends.

Mrs. Omega_Man likes to tease Omega_Man about his “boyfriends.” When we go out with our significant others they say, “You and Omega_Man can have your date, we’ll go with you.” The title for this thread was actually suggested by Shorty; Omega_Man just said, “make me look good.” All I have to say is that Humphrey Bogart had his yacht; my friends and I, we have the shooting range.

A couple weeks ago Omega_Man and I went to the range to test out the Esstac Shotgun Card, and while we were there, we also cranked a few rounds through what might be a piece of history. I’ve not been able to confirm this particular history, but I like to think that maybe this one is everything it indicates.

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I have in my battery a Marlin M24 12 gauge shotgun. This shotgun is about 90 years old, from what I can discern—the dates on these things are sketchy at best. For those of you who don’t know about the Marlin M24, it is a copy of the Winchester M97. Some say that the Marlin was a better rendition of the Winchester. My Marlin I found at a gunshow and what attracted me was the stamping on the side of the receiver; Alcatraz Federal Prison.

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Yeah, when I hold this shotgun, I like to think that it got pointed at some infamous gangster at some point. Did the Birdman—that piece of shit portrayed as a kind old man by Burt Lancaster—get to look down the wrong end of that barrel?

It started life as a long barreled M24; probably in the neighborhood of 26” or so, and was cut to a mere 18”, most likely when it was purchased by the prison for guard duty. The open choke—or lack thereof—doesn’t hinder this shotguns delivery; it groups out to 25 meters with standard 00 buckshot just fine. This shotgun has been used, the nicks and worn wood attest to having been carried and shot over the years, and the damn thing just feels good. It shoulders nice, it balances well, it points great, it’s just what pump shotguns today don’t have; a certain type of class.

So, here’s some porn with me and my Other Significant Other.

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Nice action shot here; the smoke still in the chamber the shell hanging just off the receiver in both mine and Omega_Man’s shot.

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Sending fun downrange.

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Oh yeah, baby.

When the Zombies come, this shotgun is one that will come with me, even with all my Tacticool shit, this one will ride somewhere in the mix.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:28 pm
by SimonZayne
I'll give you 50 bucks and a sixer of Bud for that old piece of crap.

One of these days Doc, that beauty will be mine, oh yes, it will.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:16 pm
by TheLastOne
Goddamnnit you fuckers get some proper shoes!








:lol:
Needs local shooting friends.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:35 pm
by ausher
My wife gives me the same "have fun with your boyfriend" crap too...

By the way.... Are those one point or two point tactical flip flops?

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:16 am
by Kutter_0311
Yeah, my wife is only slightly jealous of my "boyfriend" being above her on my texting records, but I don't see him every day.

That is one damn classy shotty...

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:19 am
by Gingerbread Man
Yeah, I'd have to say Redeyes and I have our dates. We go to the range, drink beers afterwards, etc.

Flip-flops, ZS official tacticool range footwear. :lol:

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:37 am
by Tetra Grammaton Cleric
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:lol:

Words are not enough to describe that shotgun. It's like the power band on a motor cycle, so many seperate coolness vectors all intersecting at once...

:oh:

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Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:00 am
by Makarov
I hate you for being able to use shorts and sandals in October, while I'm contemplating changing over to snow tires on my car. The fact that you have a really nice shotgun doesn't help either.




That's all...

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:02 am
by TheLastOne
Regular Guy wrote:Yeah, I'd have to say Redeyes and I have our dates. We go to the range, drink beers afterwards, etc.

Flip-flops, ZS official tacticool range footwear. :lol:

:lol: You guys should probably design and market some Shootin' flip flops. I'm too big a wienie to tolerate any hot brass that might land on my foot :oh:

I do have a sweet scar on the back of my neck from Focker's damn steel case pistol ammo getting stuck to my skin from mag dump though! 8-)


ps that shotty is friggin cool.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:52 am
by 400 Grains
Departmentally marked guns are a cool thing to own. It's too bad a lot of agencies didn't make their guns. I've got several marked ones, but also a few that I'd love to know if they were, and with some companies, there's not much in the way of records.

You should try and document that gun as much as possible. Call Marlin and see if you can get shipment records. See if there are any Alcatraz historians. Wouldn't it be cool if you could get copies of paperwork with your gun listed? If any agency documented stuff, it was probably the federal prisons.

One thing though, just remember that metallurgy wasn't the same back in those days. Putting a ton of rounds downrange, that are likely higher pressure than the gun was designed around, is going to make stuff break.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:38 pm
by Dave_M
We all know that I'm not a biggest shotgun fan.

My general thought is, if you're going to own a shotgun you should at least own really cool ones.

An Alcatraz marked Marlin M24 definitely falls into that category.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:43 pm
by Maverick299
At least I'm not the only one that shoots in flip-flops! :lol:

Very cool shotty!!!!

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:56 pm
by omega_man
Tactical flip-flops, it's a lifestyle choice :lol:

Honestly, that old shotty was all titties and mustache. Furthermore, it had this odd natural "feel" or balance almost, it practically pointed itself. Really cool.

I just see ZPAW Doc66 now: Gorgeous blond locks, sandals, 100 year old shotgun, and a fifth of Beam :rofl: (and still outshoot all of us).

I look awsome, btw. Thanks Doc!

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:23 pm
by 400 Grains
doc66 wrote: It started life as a long barreled M24; probably in the neighborhood of 26” or so, and was cut to a mere 18”, most likely when it was purchased by the prison for guard duty. [/img]]
Possibly. But my guess would be it was cut after any service as a guard gun, and I'll bet it started life as a 30" gun. Long barreled shotguns weren't unusual as guard guns back in those days, or with local police departments for that matter. Most of the armed guards were in towers or on a parapet, where a longer barrel wouldn't hamper it's usefulness much.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:34 am
by doc66
400 Grains wrote:
doc66 wrote: It started life as a long barreled M24; probably in the neighborhood of 26” or so, and was cut to a mere 18”, most likely when it was purchased by the prison for guard duty. [/img]]]
Possibly. But my guess would be it was cut after any service as a guard gun, and I'll bet it started life as a 30" gun. Long barreled shotguns weren't unusual as guard guns back in those days, or with local police departments for that matter. Most of the armed guards were in towers or on a parapet, where a longer barrel wouldn't hamper it's usefulness much.
I don't know. I'm sure you've been to Alcatraz--being in the same state--it's awful close quarters in there.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:32 pm
by 400 Grains
doc66 wrote:
400 Grains wrote:
doc66 wrote: It started life as a long barreled M24; probably in the neighborhood of 26” or so, and was cut to a mere 18”, most likely when it was purchased by the prison for guard duty. [/img]]]]
Possibly. But my guess would be it was cut after any service as a guard gun, and I'll bet it started life as a 30" gun. Long barreled shotguns weren't unusual as guard guns back in those days, or with local police departments for that matter. Most of the armed guards were in towers or on a parapet, where a longer barrel wouldn't hamper it's usefulness much.
I don't know. I'm sure you've been to Alcatraz--being in the same state--it's awful close quarters in there.
Staff wandering around inside the prison wouldn't be carrying shotguns.

"Riot" length guns were readily available at the time. I don't see a federal prison cutting one down, but I dunno.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:13 pm
by doc66
More pics of today's session coming soon.

Oh, and we were shooting 100 yards with pistols. :clap:

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:19 pm
by omega_man
Today was truely an epic range day. Omega_woman just showed me the pics you put on FB. Don't drool too much, fellas :mrgreen:

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:41 pm
by SimonZayne
Epic indeed, I was impressed I could even hit the berm after the previous day.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:09 pm
by doc66
This time, there were girls.

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This one is a pretty cool pic, looks like a good ad for hunting.
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Mrs. Omega_Man, Junior, and Girlfriend. Junior is giving some pointers.
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Omega_Man and Mrs. Omega+Man.
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Omega_Man and Mrs. Omega+Man and Junior.
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Action_Man
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Mrs. Omega_Man

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other; Now with Pics

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:20 pm
by doc66
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Doc66 getting more time on the Esstac.
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this is a funny pic because it looks like the recoil is knocking my hat off; really, I had just knocked it off because it was sliding over my eyes from the ears pushing them down.
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Simon Zane working the Esstac.
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This is a cool pic because it shows how fucked up you can slap the Esstac on and still keep the shotgun running!
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Non Descript Male shooting his PSA build.
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Another cool huntingesqe pic of Girlfriend and Boyfriend.

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:24 pm
by doc66
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Omega_Man, Doc66, jhyde, Simon Zane

The day before... that ran into the night. Did anyone else see the meteor shower?

Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:35 pm
by doc66
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100 yard shooting begins.
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Re: Shooting with the Other Significant Other

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:35 pm
by doc66
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Dangerous People.